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GenderGP - something afoot?

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umbel · 05/10/2020 20:41

Looks like something is about to drop.

GenderGP - something afoot?
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PronounssheRa · 07/10/2020 20:30

If it's the Pharmacy Regulator that has enforced this, then won't alternative pharmacies face the same problems?

In any case I doubt the regulator has acted just on media reports.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/10/2020 20:28

So...as a result in the underhand methods of discredited 'GenderGP' being exposed by the press, the regulator has stepped in. Journalists and the regulator doing their job properly and responsibly.

Whatwouldscullydo · 07/10/2020 20:03

When has negative press stopped them from prescribing within the confines of the law. Pharmacys even let their own staff opt out of dispensing certain medications regardless of opinions of anyone.

There has to be a bit more to it surely?

Apollo440 · 07/10/2020 20:01

Not before time they were shut down.

rogdmum · 07/10/2020 19:57

Goes on to say...

“ These changes have been enforced by the Pharmacy Regulator pharmacyregulation.org. We are acutely aware of the distress this is causing our patients. We are currently negotiating with alternative partner pharmacies to ensure our patients healthcare is not affected.”

“ All our patients have been sent an email listing alternative options currently available to them. We are creating an FAQ and will continue to post daily updates as the situation evolves. Live options will be updated here cognitoforms.com/GenderGPOwner/…”

“ This situation serves to highlight the unacceptable gaps in trans healthcare in the UK. We remain as committed as ever to supporting the trans community.”

“ We believe it is discriminatory that trans people trying to access healthcare are being treated as second class citizens.
We call on everyone to #SupportTransHC #StandWithGGP”

rogdmum · 07/10/2020 19:56

Yes, GenderGP have tweeted:

twitter.com/gendergp/status/1313905523335585793?s=21

“As a result of the recent negative press attention our prescribing chemist has been told they are unable to fulfil the prescriptions of the thousands of trans patients who use GenderGP.”

umbel · 07/10/2020 19:51

Rumour has it that Clear Chemist have now cut ties with GenderGP, who are now suggesting their patients pay extra for a paper prescription to be sent directly to them, to take to their local pharmacy. I can only assume this works by exploiting the same legal loophole as before, just involving (potentially unwittingly) many other chemists.

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Suffrajester · 06/10/2020 11:47

@PronounssheRa

Mermaids last month 'check out Gender GP'

There needs to be a formal investigation, slippery as hell.

There's any number of beauty gurus on YouTube who do makeup tutorials who they could've plugged (and possibly even scooped a sponsorship in the process, lots of YouTubers like Mermaids for some reason), but no, straight to one that just happens to sell hormones.
DannyGlickWindowTapping · 06/10/2020 11:44

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

they will only use the NHS pathway from now on

Which begs the question, of why they weren't using it before, and on what evidence using whose guidance?

Well, exactly. I might by cynical, but would not be surprised if their internal investigation found that they had followed all "proper" (as defined by themselves) processes, and even if they didn't, it didn't make any difference as everyone loves them and thinks they're lovely, and even if that isn't true, you can't blame them, as they are nice and kind. Why can't you just be kiiiind back?? Or they may throw someone under the bus. I guess as this is with regard to regulation they can't just reverse ferret. Yet. A bit of pre-emptive ferreting to do first.
RozWatching · 06/10/2020 11:43

@Thingybob

I wonder if the BBC interview triggered any guilt in Victoria Derbyshire? She played a big part in the mass brainwashing that has caused so much distress to so many families.
Yeah, I wonder. Those kids "born in the wrong body". But OTOH is there any part of the BBC that hasn't been involved in pushing this on kids and parents, from "I am Leo" to that unprofessional LGBT correspondent who puts a Pink News style spin on his reports? When Webberley was convicted and banned, the 5 Live news team somehow managed to make her sound like a wronged hero.
SunsetBeetch · 06/10/2020 11:41

[quote Manderleyagain]Foxy kimono qc has pontificated on this - saying reversable puberty blockers are reversable (and did he mention they're reversable) and the Times are rich to clutch their pearls on this when they are partly responsible for the market for internet drugs by trying to restrict access to health care for trans kids.
mobile.twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1313359932557848577[/quote]
Wow. Oh wow. I've archived those tweets.

archive.vn/8smxf

PronounssheRa · 06/10/2020 11:25

Mermaids last month 'check out Gender GP'

There needs to be a formal investigation, slippery as hell.

GenderGP - something afoot?
Manderleyagain · 06/10/2020 11:23

Odcrone oh yes that's annoying - when you do online forms you don't have a copy of what you said.

Manderleyagain · 06/10/2020 11:21

Foxy kimono qc has pontificated on this - saying reversable puberty blockers are reversable (and did he mention they're reversable) and the Times are rich to clutch their pearls on this when they are partly responsible for the market for internet drugs by trying to restrict access to health care for trans kids.
mobile.twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1313359932557848577

OldCrone · 06/10/2020 10:59

There is some discussion about complaints made to the regulators on this thread. Popchyk took this further than I did, but I don't know if she eventually got any sort of response from them.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3625515-Patient-of-webberlys-commits-suicide?msgid=88686506

ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2020 10:44

@teawamutu

Good piece but bit too much detail on how to sign up IMO.
Yes... I thought it could inadvertently serve as an advert.
OldCrone · 06/10/2020 10:39

@Manderleyagain

Oldcrone, why don't you contact the journalists with the details of your complaint that was ignored.
Unfortunately I don't have a record of it because I used an online form rather than email.
Manderleyagain · 06/10/2020 10:37

Oldcrone, why don't you contact the journalists with the details of your complaint that was ignored.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/10/2020 10:36

they will only use the NHS pathway from now on

Which begs the question, of why they weren't using it before, and on what evidence using whose guidance?

OldCrone · 06/10/2020 10:29

Previous threads about the Webberleys. Clear Chemist named Helen Webberley as the doctor in charge of prescribing even after her suspension (see screenshots on the first link):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3598778-Dr-Helen-and-Dr-Mike-Webberley-matters-of-public-record?msgid=87460343#87460343

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3658065-Isnt-Helen-Webberley-still-prevented-from-providing-services-in-UK

I made a complaint to the regulator about Clear Chemist at the time, but heard nothing back. It seems you have to be a journalist with a national newspaper in order for them to actually take any notice of complaints and concerns.

Thingybob · 06/10/2020 10:11

I wonder if the BBC interview triggered any guilt in Victoria Derbyshire? She played a big part in the mass brainwashing that has caused so much distress to so many families.

SunsetBeetch · 06/10/2020 09:42

@StandUpStraight

Thanks Nonny. Good to see Mermaids featuring in that sordid little tale. They won’t like that. I can hear a clock ticking...
If the BBC are actually daring to report on it, you know thd jig must be almost up.
umbel · 06/10/2020 09:32

Thanks OldCrone - I managed to catch it too. Pretty damning of both Mermaids and GenderGP. I’m shocked (but not surprised) that their forum appears to be pretty much unmoderated, though I bet they’d swoop in to remove any posts suggesting it might be unwise to medicate your child at home with unregulated drugs, as that would be triggering.

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DannyGlickWindowTapping · 06/10/2020 09:31

Just saw the live piece with Dr Kirkland on BBC News. It specifically mentioned Mermaids and confirmed that they are conducting an "internal investigation" and that they will only use the NHS pathway from now on.

MoltenLasagne · 06/10/2020 09:29

Yet again with the lies about puberty blockers being safe - a position that the NHS itself has stepped back from in recent months.

These are the instructions for handling lupron, the brand name of puberty blockers.

Leuprolide can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately.

In the event of a LEAK or SPILL of Lupron “the procedure to be followed is to Evacuate Area", and personal precautions are to “wear respirator, chemical safety goggles, rubber boots, and heavy rubber gloves.”