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Labour don't think sex is a protected characteristic in the EA.

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weaverbirds · 02/10/2020 11:16

Latest 'why equality matters' statement from the LP. No mention of sex as a protected category.
Is this ignorance? Seems unlikely since it's Marsha de Cordova. So it must be gaslighting. I'm beyond angry.

labour.org.uk/latest/what-is-the-equality-act-of-2010-and-why-does-it-matter/?fbclid=IwAR2LLcUNbSgFcMboVoG7UjNQE6XCpWf9VYpNf95-j8-7j4EO0nsu4aaNl60

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SirVixofVixHall · 02/10/2020 13:48

I also agree Merched . I can’t imagine voting Labour again, the misogyny, the anti-semitism, the calibre of candidates.

Shedbuilder · 02/10/2020 13:42

Agree, MerchedCymru. I held my nose and voted Labour last year, and kept my Labour MP, but I can't so it again. Breaks my heart.

SirVixofVixHall · 02/10/2020 13:41

Is she hopeless or deliberately not telling the truth (or both) ?

FindTheTruth · 02/10/2020 13:39

Marsha shared a video about the Equality Act at the same time/just before sharing this article on twitter, in which she includes sex.

crsacre · 02/10/2020 13:39

There's a much more optimistic reading of the statement.

Businesses, healthcare providers or employers can’t single out trans people thanks to the act. Trans people continue to face stigma and discrimination but this Act has helped strengthen their legal rights.

Very noticeably omits the expansive Stonewall interpretation that gender reassignment gives anyone the right to use whatever facilities matches their genderfeeling on the day.

If you were a transactivist, you would read her statement as a dog whistle to transphobic bigots.

Along with Starmer's deafening silence on the GRA, this suggests that the adults in the Labour party are trying to extricate themselves from the extreme TWAW position that dominated under Corbyn.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 02/10/2020 13:39

I,ve just read it again because I simply could not believe the had legt out sex. But there it is, a bright red headline: The Act protects against discrimination on the grounds of race, colour, ethnic origins, faith, age and nationality.

They also emphasise gender reassignment, knowing that many people wrongly believe that includes self-ID.

So, the Labour s deliberately misleading people about the law. They really have doubled fown for the trans lobby, haven’t they?

PurpleHoodie · 02/10/2020 13:36

Quite correct .

MerchedCymru · 02/10/2020 13:25

I don't think it matters how much fudging does or doesn't happen in response to what I hope will be a massive outcry. It really isn't possible to view the LP as anything other than misogynist.

Respect to the women who are fighting this from inside the party but they really are up there with the 'soul of a woman' Lib Dems, the 'non-man' Greens and the 'woman = using female pronouns and having a female name' SNP.

So many women are politically homeless...

Mollyollydolly · 02/10/2020 13:13

@Collidascope

mobile.twitter.com/MarshadeCordova/status/1311993483973062661

She's now posted this which is interesting.

Maybe Starmer has been on the phone ..
PurpleHoodie · 02/10/2020 13:08

Shame. But here we are.

PurpleHoodie · 02/10/2020 13:08

The Labour party are fucked.

Kit19 · 02/10/2020 13:05

@Collidascope

mobile.twitter.com/MarshadeCordova/status/1311993483973062661

She's now posted this which is interesting.

now that is interesting.....she's already getting the 'oooh i hope nyou're not going to turn into a bigot' comments for posting it
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/10/2020 13:04

Sorry Absinthe, x post.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/10/2020 13:03

Not on Twitter but looking at the screen shot you shared shed, but has anyone else noticed that these days , wherever we see an article about the equality act/diversity/inclusivity etc etc, of all the protected characteristics there are, the visual we see is almost always the blue/pink rainbow flag or a reference to trans? Like it's top of the pecking order or something ... Confused

Collidascope · 02/10/2020 13:01

mobile.twitter.com/MarshadeCordova/status/1311993483973062661

She's now posted this which is interesting.

MerchedCymru · 02/10/2020 13:01

Don't think we can pretend that it's a slip-up, or ignorance, or a misunderstanding any longer. This is a direct provocation - particularly when combined with the rainbow image. Men are the priority for Labour and the other 51% just need to be kind, and preferably silent.

It's sexism. In a statement about the relevance of the Equality Act. Don't know whether to rage or weep.

Mollyollydolly · 02/10/2020 12:55

I've emailed Starmer too. I think we need a concerted email campaign to make him realise this is no longer a 'fringe' issue, that he needs to make a stand and make Labour's position clear. Worst govt in my lifetime and Labour still make it feel impossible for me to vote for them.

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2020 12:50

Clowns. So transparent.

Kit19 · 02/10/2020 12:50

@AbsintheFriends

That picture is telling too. Of all the images they could have chosen to represent protected characteristics, which one was their immediate go-to...?
yep its always the rainbow innit

you dont want to be clogging up the place with for example people with disabilities now do you?

there's no big powerful disability organisation with celebrity followers that'll make labour look good now is there

TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 02/10/2020 12:41

for the men, not for you

We've got a strong contender for quote of the day there!

AbsintheFriends · 02/10/2020 12:41

That picture is telling too. Of all the images they could have chosen to represent protected characteristics, which one was their immediate go-to...?

YoBeaches · 02/10/2020 12:37

I've emailed both Keir and Marsha. Idiots.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 02/10/2020 12:35

Marsha de Cordova is Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities
and she misquotes the Equality Act, leaving out women.

I think we all know where women stand in Labour’s list of priorities now.

Shedbuilder · 02/10/2020 12:34

Thank you, that answers my question. The links I've been sent are from Twitter and I was wondering at what point an MP's blog becomes an official Labour Party statement.

showmethegin · 02/10/2020 12:25

@Shedbuilder It's on their website

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