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Jenni Murray's final Woman's Hour

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AbsintheFriends · 01/10/2020 10:45

Signing off with a final sentence - 'there are many, many stereotypes associated with our gender. But our SEX we share.'

Hopefully she will go on to speak more about this once she has exited woke central.

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LizzieSiddal · 01/10/2020 11:21

Thanks Nautical.

I've just heard it (I'm behind everyone else) and it wasn't the continuity announcer it was on the News Bulletin, so it may be repeated during the next News? Yes, they missed out the sex bit, so half quoted Jenni. Hmm I do think though, that Jenni wouldn't have been allowed to say what she did, on the BBC, even a few months ago.

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AbsintheFriends · 01/10/2020 11:19

I like to think that right now Dame Jenni is eating her cake, chatting to her team and gathering her belongings together ready to leave. And on her way out, she's going to drop into the news room just in time for the midday bulletin, slap her actual quote on the desk in front of the news reader and glare at them over the top of her specs while they say it properly.

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SquishySquirmy · 01/10/2020 11:19

It might be because they didn't know in advance that she would say the final part of that sentence?

Toomie · 01/10/2020 11:17

I'm actually going to try listen to it again later.
'There are many many stereotypes associated with our gender' is a very odd stand alone quote isn't it?!Grin

watertheroses · 01/10/2020 11:17

@nauticant

What I recall Toomie is that in the continuity announcement summarising the news headlines they reported the italicised part but left off the bolded part:

there are many, many stereotypes associated with our gender. But our SEX we share.

I might be recalling this incorrectly.

Yes you are correct. The last part of Jenny's closing statement was not quoted. The BBC news haven't quoted her statement at all.
Toomie · 01/10/2020 11:16

Ah yes, I see Nauticant I think you're right.
You are obviously more alert than me this morning!

nauticant · 01/10/2020 11:14

What I recall Toomie is that in the continuity announcement summarising the news headlines they reported the italicised part but left off the bolded part:

there are many, many stereotypes associated with our gender. But our SEX we share.

I might be recalling this incorrectly.

EerilyDeleted · 01/10/2020 11:12

Sometimes if you listen to podcast versions you get the news or whatever at the start of a show, it might be on there. I didn't hear, I had turned the radio off by then.

NecessaryScene1 · 01/10/2020 11:11

Wokies are so dumb. They've just turned a minor story into a major one.

And it's not like we were even fishing for the dumb reaction, unlike Posie's posters.

Cuntysnark · 01/10/2020 11:11

I cannot wait for the floodgates to open. Meeting Dame Jenni is on my bucket list. Sadly I doubt I’m on hers!

nauticant · 01/10/2020 11:10

As I heard it LizzieSiddal they were selectively quoting JM leaving off the part of her statement about "our sex" that was the whole point of what she'd said. However, I don't know how we can get to Listen Again to continuity announcements. Maybe the same selective quoting will happen in a later bulletin, for example at midday.

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AbsintheFriends · 01/10/2020 11:10

Did anyone just hear the headlines on Radio 4? They're reporting Jenni Murray's statement about many types of women but are specifically neglecting to include what she said about "our sex". This really couldn't be more transparent if they tried

Yes, the PR emergency woke-rescue team must have been on standby. They got to work very quickly to defuse that dirty feminist bomb and turn it into a pleasant 'inclusive' statement. Nothing to see here.

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Toomie · 01/10/2020 11:07

It was worse than that Nauticant
If I heard correctly, it was spoken as a direct quote but misquoted her as saying gender rather than sex.
Not much they can do to muzzle her though. I'm looking forward to hearing more from her...

nauticant · 01/10/2020 11:07

Maybe JM could do a guest slot on Times Radio specifically for that?

LizzieSiddal · 01/10/2020 11:06

So the BBC are misquoting Jenni? Unfucking believable- I feel a complaint coming on!

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AbsintheFriends · 01/10/2020 11:06

Was the 'gender violence' woman Helena Kennedy? I was doing stuff when that bit was on so didn't catch some of it. I think HK - disappointingly - has made some TWAW statements hasn't she?

I thought the structure of the programme was interesting. A tour through JM's history on the programme, interviewing hugely important female figures like Maya Angelou, Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton, emphasising her reputation as an extremely significant, massively respected media voice. I liked that she was able to do that with her last WH before going on to use that voice on other platforms.

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LizzieSiddal · 01/10/2020 11:05

I would love to hear an interview with Jenni and JK.

LittlePearl · 01/10/2020 11:05

I thought it was slightly odd that Jane Garvey didn't make any contribution.

I'm not as convinced as others here that JG is on the same page on this issue. I'd love to be proved wrong. I suppose she might just be brilliant at keeping her cards close to her chest but I have sometimes thought she seems quite hostile to women arguing the GC perspective.

SquishySquirmy · 01/10/2020 11:05

Loving the multiple threads on this all started at the same time! I got a teensy bit tearful listening to her and I am not normally the tearful sort.

A truth stated calmly and quietly is so powerful.

nauticant · 01/10/2020 11:04

Did anyone just hear the headlines on Radio 4? They're reporting Jenni Murray's statement about many types of women but are specifically neglecting to include what she said about "our sex". This really couldn't be more transparent if they tried.

Toomie · 01/10/2020 11:04

The continuity announcer introducing the next programme just did a direct quote from Jennys sign off but replaced the word sex with gender. Unfuckingbelievable.

lanadelgrey · 01/10/2020 11:04

That is a phrase to be embroidered into a banner.

WhatWouldJKRDo · 01/10/2020 11:01

@AbsintheFriends

I thought it was slightly odd that Jane Garvey didn't make any contribution.
I got the impression they very much do not get on.
TastelessBracelets · 01/10/2020 11:00

@AbsintheFriends

Yes, it did feel like a very emphatic way to sign off. Not so much a goodbye as the start of another conversation.

I bet she can't wait. She's unbuckling the scold's bridle as we speak!

Who was it in the first part that kept going on about "gender violence"? I swear JM was sucking her teeth at that.
RozWatching · 01/10/2020 10:59

@AbsintheFriends

Yes, it did feel like a very emphatic way to sign off. Not so much a goodbye as the start of another conversation.

I bet she can't wait. She's unbuckling the scold's bridle as we speak!

I really, really hope so. It's a travesty that she hasn't been able to tackle the topic of women's erasure on the bloody WOMAN's hour.