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Susanna Rustin in the Guardian

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Botsy · 30/09/2020 17:43

Couldn't see this posted but feels like a step forward

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/30/feminists-anti-trans-idea-sex-gender-oppression

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HecatesHat · 30/09/2020 18:26

Not sure where the 'men' came from in that precious post

HecatesHat · 30/09/2020 18:26

@RoyalCorgi

Susanna is quite senior at the Guardian, though she's a bit of a lone voice. She's been tweeting gender-critical stuff for a while. I don't know whether she had to work hard to persuade them to publish this piece, or whether it's simply that she's had to work up the courage to write it. I'm glad she's done it, though I think it is a little bit cerebral.
I think it's good that it's cerebral. The mantra post the Butler interview was that GC feminism is 'vacuous', 'lazy', 'small minded men etc etc on repeat.
TyroBurningDownTheCloset · 30/09/2020 18:26

“The body being the instrument of our grasp upon the world, the world is bound to seem a very different thing when apprehended in one manner or another,” she [de Beauvoir] wrote.

This seems so self-evident, I struggle to grasp how the Other Side so completely fail to recognise it.

Bloody astounded to see this in the Graun.

Apollo440 · 30/09/2020 18:22

A decent article at long last. No doubt it will cause a toddler melt down in some quarters. This attempt at balance is a start but not nearly enough. They need a full scale realignment to the GC side where they should have been all along instead of leading the misogynistic shit show.

SciFiScream · 30/09/2020 18:20

Wow. This is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

lanadelgrey · 30/09/2020 18:18

Probably not a lone voice but one of the few with seniority to dare to write it. Deserves Flowers imo

Singasonga · 30/09/2020 18:16

Great article.

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RoyalCorgi · 30/09/2020 18:06

Susanna is quite senior at the Guardian, though she's a bit of a lone voice. She's been tweeting gender-critical stuff for a while. I don't know whether she had to work hard to persuade them to publish this piece, or whether it's simply that she's had to work up the courage to write it. I'm glad she's done it, though I think it is a little bit cerebral.

pollypork · 30/09/2020 18:01

Wow! In the Guardian? seems odd

NecessaryScene1 · 30/09/2020 17:58

Can you imagine the scene in the Guardian's US office at this moment?

I'm almost looking forward to hearing how "disappointed" they are.

MaMaLa321 · 30/09/2020 17:58

too late for me.

Slightlybrwnbanana · 30/09/2020 17:57

That's great. I didn't think the Guardian did feminism anymore! Pleased to see it.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 30/09/2020 17:54

Hurrah!

Minty82 · 30/09/2020 17:50

Oh wow! Hadn’t seen this but will get sharing - thank you for pointing it out!

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