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Simulated pregnancy and induced lactation

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GingerAndTheBiscuits · 30/09/2020 13:32

Should possibly come with all sorts of trigger/content warnings.

DH just sent me this:

twitter.com/godblesstoto/status/1311050509072113664?s=20

TW simulating pregnancy and birth (in a house where their STBEx-wife and children live), already “planning” that the baby will be stillborn, and then wondering aloud if someone will lend them a baby to breastfeed.

All in a group for mothers taking medication so they can produce milk for their babies. Given how poor breastfeeding support is for many mothers in all parts of the world I can’t work out whether I’m more offended, disgusted, or terrified that this person has centred themselves and has people cheering them on.

DH questioned why women were commenting in support - I said it was part of the socialisation to “be nice”. His response was that it’s not being nice, it’s dangerous. And he’s right, but why can so many women not see it? Does it go beyond socialisation? According to other posts in the thread women were removed from the group for saying the person’s post was offensive/triggering to those who had experienced the loss of a child.

I don’t even know why I’m posting it really, other than I was so agog and this is one of the few places open to comment on things since I abandoned twitter

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CaraDuneRedux · 30/09/2020 20:18

Ultimately, the people I am most angry with in this scenario are the fucking lib fem idiots cheering him on.

He is clearly seriously mentally ill and needs psychiatric help.

The lib fems busy ignoring the fact that the emperor is not merely naked but barking mad and in desperate need of help, while they hoover up the woke cookies, and deprive a woman who desperately needs support of any help or sympathy because she won't play along with the barking mad delusion - they are the ones I feel angriest with.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 30/09/2020 20:17

@MNHQ, what are the rules here - can we use the pronouns appropriate to this obviously very disturbed man or do we have to pretend this is a woman in need of particular support for the horrors of still birth and/or infertility?

Mollscroll · 30/09/2020 20:17

It’s evidence of everyone having to tiptoe round someone who is clearly deeply disturbed. An actual bereaved mother got removed from a pregnancy and lactation group because she challenged this person.

Plussizejumpsuit · 30/09/2020 20:13

This sounds a bit mad. The person doesn't seem OK. But I'm not sure this can be used as evidence of all trans people being this odd. Also there's a lot of difficulty and mental health challenges associated with being trans so I'm not surprised some people behave strangly. This isn't some kind of evidence women's rights and maternity care are being eroded though. I know all of the posts about trans people on here seem to want to use any example of odd behaviour as evidence this applies to all trans people. But I've never heard of anyone doing this before.

Frazzled13 · 30/09/2020 20:10

If a woman who couldn’t have children did this, the kindest people would call them mentally unwell and try to help them. Other people would call them “baby crazy”, tell them to get a life.

No one would just go along with it

Cuntysnark · 30/09/2020 20:04

I don’t think I could say what I’m thinking. I’m mystified and horrified.

NewlyGranny · 30/09/2020 20:00

I can imagine the actual, living, real children fathered by this person and brought into the world by the soon-to-be-ex-wife asking, "Aren't we enough for you? Why aren't we enough for you?"

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 30/09/2020 19:59

This cannot be real.... this is sick and totally offensive to all women. The guy needs serious psychological help, not women ‘being nice’. I need a vino now to wipe that from my brain.

Datun · 30/09/2020 19:25

Neither of the examples in my post are women obvs. But they come from very, very different places.

Datun · 30/09/2020 19:24

@AuntyFungal

How has this behaviour escaped investigation?

How has this behaviour not triggered a cascade of interventions by social services / child protection?

A TW so deeply immersed in their fantasy of pregnancy and stillbirth - and the DC knowing this & calling them ‘mum’.

How???

Indeed.

There is a wealth of difference between a young man displaying effeminate characteristics and wanting to transition because of homophobia, and this barrel load of shite.

Vermeil · 30/09/2020 19:12

This is just taking the piss. Why do so many people have all the empathy of a Brillo-pad, yet feel so entitled to it from others?

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/09/2020 18:44

I recommend a membrane sweep before the birth.

nepeta · 30/09/2020 18:43

Based on what I have seen online this sort of thing is not quite as rare as I might have thought.

DrDavidBanner · 30/09/2020 18:41

@ArabellaScott

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I concur
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GingerAndTheBiscuits · 30/09/2020 18:37

@LilyMumsnet

Hi all

We're taking this thread down now.
There's a lot of generalisation going on and it's just not in the spirit.

So close to my first thread deletion too! ;)
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Winesalot · 30/09/2020 18:31

Yes the entitlement around surrogacy is shockingly transparent in its belief that they have the right to fertility equality. Just NO!

iguanadonna · 30/09/2020 18:27

Susanna Rustin had some interesting tweets the other day about how 'It was so transparent yesterday that frustration over GRA led immediately to rage at women's control of the baby supply'. That was directly about surrogacy but I think there's an element of envy and rage about our reproductive capacities that gets forgotten in analyses that focus on the sexual submission thrill.

namechange9357 · 30/09/2020 18:08

@ramblingsonthego

Will they go through the PPH that resulted in me losing 6 pints of blood? Will they then have a consutants arm up them akin to something out of all creatures great and school to try and stem the haemorrhage while being taken into theatre?

Will they then be left with a rectal prolapse that they have to deal with on a daily basis?

No? Oh then its just an attention seeking thundercunt who wants everyone to see how brave and wonderful they are for their own sick fetishes.

Maybe they can spend the next 40 years simulating a rectocele Wink
ArabellaScott · 30/09/2020 18:00

guys is making fun of the trauma I went through

Utterly. Utterly utterly utterly.

I can't believe people can't see how horrendously offensive this is.

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2020 17:59

Apologies. That comment was directed at the general idea of the post, not anyone posting.

It's all I can say.

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2020 17:58

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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LilyMumsnet · 30/09/2020 17:56

Hi again all,

Just to say the above post regarding deletion was a mistake - too many tabs open. Sorry about that.

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LilyMumsnet · 30/09/2020 17:54

Hi all

We're taking this thread down now.
There's a lot of generalisation going on and it's just not in the spirit.

DrDavidBanner · 30/09/2020 17:50

Okay so now I have read the full thead but I got to "Empathy Belly" and completely lost the plot Angry

ramblingsonthego · 30/09/2020 17:40

Will they go through the PPH that resulted in me losing 6 pints of blood? Will they then have a consutants arm up them akin to something out of all creatures great and school to try and stem the haemorrhage while being taken into theatre?

Will they then be left with a rectal prolapse that they have to deal with on a daily basis?

No? Oh then its just an attention seeking thundercunt who wants everyone to see how brave and wonderful they are for their own sick fetishes.

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