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ffs, amanda craig novellist dropped from mslexia

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Helmetbymidnight · 29/09/2020 18:29

according to nick cohen on twitter, amanda craig novellist has been dropped as a judge from mslexia because she signed the jkr letter - a womens writing magazine! - absolutely shocking. and frightening.

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PotholeParadies · 29/09/2020 23:01

Well, let's see how it works out for Mslexia financially.

I'm sure we all recall that a certain TRA accidentally got the Spectator about 1000 extra subscriptions after confronting the Coop and Troubled Blood has massively outsold its predecessor as a result of the libellous statements about JK.

Are people who stand with KMH going to get their debit cards out and take out Mslexia subscriptions? I've developed the impression that the dynamic only works one way. TRAs denounce anyone who steps out of line on social media and then they vow never to buy another book/DVD/petit filous. But they weren't spending money there anyway!

The TRA movement is dominated by the kind of person that wouldn't buy a book with a female author name on it and people who are in it for shouting abuse on twitter for free. Are they really going to take out subs to a women's literary magazine in numbers that outweigh the ones Mslexia will lose?

JKRismyhero · 29/09/2020 23:01

Fucking ridiculous

WhereAreWeNow · 29/09/2020 22:56

Right, I'll go to the bookshop tomorrow and buy something by Craig. Hopefully others will do the same and she'll see the same spike in sales that JKR had.

BlackWaveComing · 29/09/2020 22:21

The arts world is toxic. Deeply entrenched misogyny, with women constantly performing for men in order to be tolerated themselves. This is just the 2020 iteration.

There is no women's poetry mag I know of that is not open to and prioritises men. (If anyone here does know of one, message me please and share deets - I've got poems to send out!)

Removing Craig from a judging panel is craven, and it's also just a very recognisable form of arts-world bullying.

I shall be buying Amanda Craig's books, and recommending them widely. Best way to push back, imo.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 29/09/2020 22:20

[quote HPFA]People might like this too:

twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1311040711475765254[/quote]
👍

nepeta · 29/09/2020 22:19

I think the tombstone of feminism will read "BE KIND".

BlueCatRedCat · 29/09/2020 22:11

Ugh, no more KMH books for DD. She likes KMH, but worships JKR. So many of these female kids' writers are standing on JKR's shoulders and kicking her in the teeth. She blazed the trail for them.

Malahaha · 29/09/2020 22:09

@RoyalCorgi

A Vicious Circle is the only one of Craig's that I've read, and it's great.

Perfect quote from Strike. I absolutely loved Troubled Blood.

I've read The Lie of the Land and it is fab. I also have her latest book on Kindle but haven't read it yet (The Golden Rule).
Stripyhoglets1 · 29/09/2020 22:07

Just inspired me to buy ACs book A Private Place - loved that book as a teenager!

Glinner · 29/09/2020 22:05

they've taken down their contact page.

Delphinium20 · 29/09/2020 22:00

@Aine82

Don’t worry Kiran Millwood Hargrove, no need to protect your Tweets.

We’re not the crowd who will threaten to rape you, to curb stomp you, to choke on our appendages we don’t have, to murder you. We won’t start a hashtag #rip-insert woke name here-. We won’t boycott your books, or buy them to burn them.

Sorry if you’re uncomfortable judging a women’s writing competition with a woman author who was brave enough to speak out against such things.

Great way to get yourself some free publicity and the backing of the wokesters though 👍

I'm cynical, but something looks like PR.
DialSquare · 29/09/2020 22:00

Looks like I'm off to buy some of Amanda's books then.

HPFA · 29/09/2020 21:58

People might like this too:

twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1311040711475765254

Supersimkin2 · 29/09/2020 21:55

What a coincidence. The unknown, albeit bloodthirsty, author has a first novel out on Thursday.

It's called The Mercies Grin.

Supersimkin2 · 29/09/2020 21:52

Amanda Craig's a needle-sharp social observer whose state of the nation novels are also very funny.

If this makes people buy Craig's books, rock on Mysogynistia.

Itsinthetreesitscoming · 29/09/2020 21:43

Well looking at Twitter, there's a litany of children's authors and agents lining up to support Kiran Millwood Hargrave saying how brave she is, how horrible to go through with this. Yes, imagine how awful to be on a panel with someone with opposing views, someone who thinks it's not ok to abuse women online!

I seriously despair of children's publishing at the moment.

JKRisagryff · 29/09/2020 21:40

I wonder how many of the men who signed this letter will lose their jobs?Hmm

JKRisagryff · 29/09/2020 21:30

This is horrifying. As PPs have said she wasn’t even saying she agrees with jkr’s political views. So now you can lose your job for saying you oppose sexual/death threats because those sexual/death threats have been made by TRAs? It’s just pure and utter madness.

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 29/09/2020 21:25

Ah, didn't realise Kit09 had posted a link too. I thought going via Glinner's page was the only way to find it.

KatVonlabonk · 29/09/2020 21:22

How can they not see how terribly wrong this is?

Hope the press cover it. Daylight.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 29/09/2020 21:19

@TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot

You can still get to the Contact Us page via the link on the page Glinner linked to above.
Ahh that’s what wasn’t working for me but is now working again Confused

@Glinner please ignore!

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 29/09/2020 21:17

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EdgeOfACoin · 29/09/2020 21:15

The letter in support of JKR didn't even say that the signatories agreed with her views on transgender people. It just said that the threats were unacceptable.

If you sack someone for agreeing with that statement, you basically agree that JKR deserved the abuse.

Nice to see that mslexia is supporting women writers.

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 29/09/2020 21:13

You can still get to the Contact Us page via the link on the page Glinner linked to above.

Kit19 · 29/09/2020 21:09

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Is it me having a Luddite moment or have they removed the “contact us” page?
Nope it’s not you - they have removed their contact details the complete cowards

mslexia.co.uk/?page_id=361

I’m embarrassed for themselves! It’ll be nothing In comparison to the anger & abuse jkr has received & they can’t even deal with that