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ffs, amanda craig novellist dropped from mslexia

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Helmetbymidnight · 29/09/2020 18:29

according to nick cohen on twitter, amanda craig novellist has been dropped as a judge from mslexia because she signed the jkr letter - a womens writing magazine! - absolutely shocking. and frightening.

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SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 12:36

JW jumped overboard a while ago didn’t she?

RoyalCorgi · 30/09/2020 12:34

I cancelled and I haven't had an email back. Maybe they're reeling under the weight of cancellations. I hope so.

2Rebecca · 30/09/2020 12:34

Never heard of this mag but so disappointed with Jeanette Winterson who should know what a woman is. She has written about women cross dressing and latterly a transman but her characters always seemed to acknowledge and be comfortable in their femaleness

SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 12:30

Quite demanding little things aren’t they? Or was the the queen responding ?

Kit19 · 30/09/2020 12:29

@TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot

If this person's tweet is representative it looks like Mslexia is already falling foul of the ultra woke it's pandering to.
😂😂😂😂 I love it when it’s never ever good enough!!!!
TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 30/09/2020 12:28

If this person's tweet is representative it looks like Mslexia is already falling foul of the ultra woke it's pandering to.

ffs, amanda craig novellist dropped from mslexia
SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 12:27

I leaned a new fact today. Weasel is a favourite insult of mine so I looked it up: ‘Female stoats and weasels are referred to as a bitch, doe or Jill’. So now we all know.

SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 12:25

Nah. They will all be working from their flats (Brighton and hove perhaps) complaining about how threatened they feel.

Time40 · 30/09/2020 12:24

....it must be all go in Mslexia Towers this morning. I had an email straight back from them - just 'cancellation noted and comments will be passed on'

Time40 · 30/09/2020 12:20

I've just cancelled my subscription, and I told them they ought to be ashamed of themselves. It looks as though quite a few of us on this thread have cancelled - I wonder how many they have lost this morning?

LadySeaThing · 30/09/2020 12:19

They will lose a lot of subscriptions but also gain lots of new ones from wokesters, and presumably also from TRA, Rowling-hating transwomen. So they might not go under, they'll just turn into (even more of) a tiresome purity-spiral peddler with no interesting writing, only virtue-signalling writing.

Kit19 · 30/09/2020 12:16

Ahhhh and suddenly it ALL becomes clear

KMH organised this letter
www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/30/more-than-200-writers-and-publishers-sign-letter-in-support-of-trans-and-non-binary-people

queenofknives · 30/09/2020 12:10

Fucking hell. Well let's see if they can stay afloat when they've got no more women buying their magazine or entering their competitions because of their contempt for us.

Kit19 · 30/09/2020 12:10

I think it says quite a lot that the tweet doesn’t say “here is our statement in response to yesterday’s news about our dropping one of our judges” or similar. There’s no heading or hashtag, you can’t search for it so unless you click on
The link you've no idea what it’s about

Utter utter cowards

SirVixofVixHall · 30/09/2020 12:06

@RoyalCorgi

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

The sheer, monumental fucking stupidity of it. How can supporting another writer undermine the climate of welcome and inclusivity? Are they really so dim that they think speaking out against violent threats to another woman undermines inclusivity, when in fact it does the opposite? It's Orwellian. It's saying the exact opposite of what it purports to say. It's saying freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, war is peace.

I thought after yesterday I couldn't despise them more. Turns out I could.

This.
RoyalCorgi · 30/09/2020 11:55

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

The sheer, monumental fucking stupidity of it. How can supporting another writer undermine the climate of welcome and inclusivity? Are they really so dim that they think speaking out against violent threats to another woman undermines inclusivity, when in fact it does the opposite? It's Orwellian. It's saying the exact opposite of what it purports to say. It's saying freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, war is peace.

I thought after yesterday I couldn't despise them more. Turns out I could.

Siablue · 30/09/2020 11:54

@notyourhandmaid

Mslexia have released a statement: Mslexia have released a statement: twitter.com/Mslexia/status/1311252031764606976

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

Quite nasty.

In that case Amanda Craig should not have been the judge they let go!

I am pleased that you copied their post into the thread as I could not read what they have put on Twitter someone should give them a course on making communications inclusive for disabled people (or is that the wrong kind of inclusion).

Kit19 · 30/09/2020 11:48

I’m genuinely aghast that any organisation supposedly for women would say it’s wrong to speak out against misogynistic bullying

Can they not hear themselves??

SirVixofVixHall · 30/09/2020 11:48

@notyourhandmaid

Mslexia have released a statement: Mslexia have released a statement: twitter.com/Mslexia/status/1311252031764606976

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

Quite nasty.

Blimey. The Stasi are alive and well I see. Nothing at all sinister there...
SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 11:47

Weasels.

LadySeaThing · 30/09/2020 11:47

I think this is a good example of what happens when subservience to the TRA position is held to account and asked to defend itself. There is no statement that can make sense to explain why declaring that women shouldn't be subject to misogynistic bullying is a sackable offence.

SirVixofVixHall · 30/09/2020 11:46

Agree RoyalCorgi

SerenityNowwwww · 30/09/2020 11:45

@notyourhandmaid

Mslexia have released a statement: Mslexia have released a statement: twitter.com/Mslexia/status/1311252031764606976

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

Quite nasty.

Well that’s the nasty women told then. Let’s see how their accountants feel at the end of the next 1/4 shall we?
BigBadVoodooHat · 30/09/2020 11:45

@notyourhandmaid

Mslexia have released a statement: Mslexia have released a statement: twitter.com/Mslexia/status/1311252031764606976

"...if a Mslexia judge expresses views that threaten to undermine Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity, we will always ask her to step down from that role."

Quite nasty.

That's indefensible. How is supporting a woman's right to express her opinion without being subjected to misogynistic death threats undermining Mslexia's climate of welcome and inclusivity?

I've crossed paths with Debbie Taylor in a work capacity on a few occasions. As such, I'm not remotely surprised by this. Sad

Kit19 · 30/09/2020 11:45

Doubling down - quelle surprise. Utter spineless cowards

I’d love to hear the explanation of how not supporting bullying is against inclusivity