Unisex Primary Toilets

Some people get anxious using public toilets for any more than a wee. I remember my aunt could only ever do a poo at home. And I don't give a fig about the reasons, I'm grown up and I hate unisex toilets because they make me feel uncomfortable. Why are little girls being put into a situation like that to begin with?

Until there is clear guidance of changes relating to Covid the current law stands.
It covers more than just cubicles and rooms; it also covers sanitary waste. If a cubicle does not contain a sanitary waste bin its not suitable for use by women or girls over the age of 8.

Website: not fine in schools.

notfineinschool.org.uk/sexual-assault

Apologies for sun link

www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/8266620/rise-of-pre-teen-sexual-predators-in-uk-schools/

The law says that children 8 years old and over should have single sex toilets. Schools that force girls to use mixed sex toilets are breaking the law.

Covid laws may have impacted this negatively, I'm not entirely sure legally where things stand at the moment.

I dont get how its "no big deal" when the kids don't like it but such a huge deal if kids are told to use single sex toilets.

Either toilets are a big deal or they aren't. Why aren't the kids told to "get over it" when they have to use the single sex ones.

And yes it's a fucking massive deal:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-schools-nurseries-rape-sexual-assaults-foi-statistics-figures-a7213751.html

[quote OverTheRainbow88]@Sexnotgender

No I won’t fuck off, this is an open public forum; I’m equally entitled to express my opinion as you are. And fuck off is a pathetic response.

All I am saying is it is becoming more common in schools, where safeguarding is paramount, girls are more at physical risk holding in their wee all day than they are using a mixed toilet.[/quote]
You think you should get to decide which laws to break and which to keep, so don't expect much support.

The law says that children 8 years old and over should have single sex toilets. Schools that force girls to use mixed sex toilets are breaking the law.

The only kind of mixed sex loo that's lawful is fully enclosed with a basin inside, though Dh said the basin can legally be outside in a shared room.

I pointed out that's no good for strict Muslims or a woman washing blood of her hands and he just said "oh. Right. Fuck."

The guidance is clear for schools though so much of the debate is irrelevant, Covid restrictions however have caused issues as bubbles must be assigned a loo.

We've even got specific loos for staff in certain bubbles incase we become ill and it needs a deep clean.

(Is it worth also pointing out here that architecture is one of the most heavily male dominated professions? Imo many loos aren't fit for female purposes.)

It’s not a big deal

It clearly is to this girl.
Single sex provisions are important to maintain safeguarding, dignity and privacy.
Time and time again women and girls are told to "get over it" to allow males to do as they please.

And actually no, a little girl couldn’t ‘equally’ follow her in and touch her bum,

Unless of course you’re suggesting that males and females are suddenly offending at equal rates and if that’s the case I’d love to see your evidence.

I’ll wait. Until then yes dear you can fuck off.

These girls? you mean the ones going to secondary schools wehere sexual harrassment is normal? where 37% of secondary school age girls have been sexually harrassed? 24% have been subjected to unwanted physical touching

www.tes.com/news/sexual-harassment-normal-schools-warns-report

deary me.....

Equally a little girl could follow another girl in and touch their bum.

That's telling girls "well, girls do it too, get over it"

Really? This is where you want to go?

Just no.

Get on with it, no big deal = Telling girls their feelings don't matter, put up and shut up. Be nice, be quiet, be kind. There's a good compliant girl.

FTFOAFOSM

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings 👍

.... girls are more at physical risk holding in their wee all day than they are using a mixed toilet...

And yet girls are choosing to do exactly that. Try and imagine why that is.

Go on, give it your best shot.

Schools have allowed themselves to be trained by lobby groups safeguarding has been thrown out the window fir certificates. Let's not pretend it suddenly means its ok.

Oh akd 2/3 of girls have suffered sexual harassment either on the way to or at school.

Safe my arse...

@Sexnotgender

No I won’t fuck off, this is an open public forum; I’m equally entitled to express my opinion as you are. And fuck off is a pathetic response.

All I am saying is it is becoming more common in schools, where safeguarding is paramount, girls are more at physical risk holding in their wee all day than they are using a mixed toilet.

Males are responsible for 98 percent of sexual crimes against women amd girls.

Opening toilets girls use up to males is a massive increased risk.

Accessible toilets are single occupancy fully enclosed units

But yes I expect it is still a huge worry of disabled peope that they will get pushed inside akd assaulted.

Neither is an excuse to forget safguarding so you can appear woke

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

I think now you need to do a post for "gIrLz CoULd AsSAuLt oThEr GirLz toOoOoO"

If they use the disabled toilet then they arendling to disabled kids what the boys are doing to them. Excluding them from their own facilities.

Why is a girl ok to share a toilet with a disabled boy but not a non disabled boy?

Definitely talk to the teacher. Even if the school doesn't agree to change the setup yet, could the teacher at least ensure your DD has the chance to access the facilities when the boys aren't in there? Maybe just before the start or end of the lesson? Any decent teacher will figure something out once they are aware.

Equally a little girl could follow another girl in and touch their bum.

Also wheelchair users always have mixed toilets.

I sometimes think adults make things into an issue for their children, I genuinely can’t see why mixed toilets is an issue for any sex.

I think its because it helps make girls look mean and exclusionary and to remind them their rights can be removed at any time

If they don't want boys there, they are accusing them all of being sex offenders or are hysterical and ridiculous.

If they use the disabled toilet then they arendling to disabled kids what the boys are doing to them. Excluding them from their own facilities.

Its very carefully worked to enable gorls to look like the bad guys each time just fir standing up for their legal rights.

And off topic but some of us.....gasp....live in single sex households. Take some time to recover....