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Look who is coming out to bat (again)

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StandWithYou · 28/09/2020 09:57

Just seen Jo M twitter feed. I assume this is his response to the DfE guidance although it isn’t explicit. I agree with him that children should have quicker access to quality mental health resources but I then part company with him on the results of that. He ignores the whistle blowers from within GIDS on parental pressure and the NHS on the impact of puberty blockers. He then rounds off with a sideswipe at JKR and the promise of the Good Law Project looking at this area. He seems to be doubling down when Mermaids is furiously back pedalling.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1310474119658582017

Look who is coming out to bat (again)
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StandWithYou · 28/09/2020 17:08

I agree with ImvisibleDragon that the work on Government contracts etc is great however I disagree on his views on this. Women have a right to comment on issues that affect them and JKR should be able to give her opinion.

I think he is trying to dismiss her opinions precisely because they have brought more attention to this matter. There has been a lot of movement since she wrote her essays and tweets.

‘Insulated by her wealth’ vs funding Lumos and giving away millions to help children. I rather think certain celebrities who endorse TW being able to enter single sex spaces e.g refuges, changing rooms, wards, prisons etc are insulated by their wealth as it will never affect them.

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ErrolTheDragon · 28/09/2020 16:48

But amateur for sure, few women get paid for defending women's rights. I've no idea why doing it for free would be seen as a cause for disrespect.

InvisibleDragon · 28/09/2020 16:47

I'm really ambivalent about JM. So much of the work thst he does with the Good Law project is so great - digging out the dodgy government PPE contracts and getting the ruling on proroguing parliament.

But he has a huge blind spot on this, which is perhaps understandable if it's affecting his own family. I would love to see JM and Joanna Cherry have a discussion on these issues though - would hopefully really get to the heart of the matter, rather than skating around on the surface.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/09/2020 16:47

@bookgirl1982

Amateur hobby = commenting on trans issues, I think
Women's rights issues. The tweet that kicked things off was about being able to use the word 'women' on issues relating to women. (I think I already said this upthread).

Being a woman and standing up for women's rights isn't a 'hobby'.

Kit19 · 28/09/2020 16:44

Seems this thread def being monitored

bookgirl1982 · 28/09/2020 16:39

Amateur hobby = commenting on trans issues, I think

AltogetherAndrews · 28/09/2020 16:35

What is JKR’s amateur hobby here? The writing, or the being female? I suppose it would make sense that he thinks being female could be a hobby.

Kit19 · 28/09/2020 16:31

Fair point Errol

you'd think therefore he'd be more sympathetic to the women who tweet him with their experience of ROGD or concerns about their child but he really doesnt seem to be

crsacre · 28/09/2020 16:27

Sam Smethers (Fawcett Society) is on the board of the Good Law Project.

nauticant · 28/09/2020 16:23

But I'd expect a legal practitioner to be more aware of conflict of interest in a general sense, especially if they're very high profile and many many people will take whatever they say as gospel. To me this just means he's abusing a particular position of privilege.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/09/2020 16:20

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fatblackcatspaw · 28/09/2020 16:07

@Bodoni

Just to say, I had actually been supporting Good Law Project for taking on some of the current government’s illegal actions - thinking “well I know he’s a bit silly about trans but he’s correct on this”. But I’m not having this, it’s outrageous - so I’ve unsubscribed as have other members of my family. I hope more people do too.
I haven't monetariy supported The Good Law Project but last year spent many hours demonstrating outside the Court of Session in Edinburgh and saw Joylon and Joanna Cherry in action. I think Dear Joylon is a TINY bit too much in love with himself. I would walk over hot coals for Joanna. Brilliant on her brief just doing her job. I'd vote SNP if she was leader.
Kit19 · 28/09/2020 15:49

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PronounssheRa · 28/09/2020 15:47

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howard97A · 28/09/2020 15:43

Weird how an obviously ridiculous notion takes hold.

Yes. Who’d have thought that anyone could regard a person with a penis as a woman?

No one encourages children into a cycle of psychological treatment then drugs and then surgery. Who chooses that for a child?

Perhaps the kind of person who takes a child abroad for life-changing surgery that would be illegal in UK?

I guess the myth is just easier to grapple with than the reality.

Yep

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PronounssheRa · 28/09/2020 15:41

It's interesting, at a time where medical negligence solicitors are starting to circle Maugham decides to use the good law project as a means to attempt to get even more children medicalised, some for life.

He is so personally invested in this he cant be objective (I also think he is a raging misogynist, so will only listen to women who agree with him)

If you haven't already listened to Douglas Murray on talk radio this morning, have listen, the last 30 seconds are a blistering attack on mermaids.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 28/09/2020 15:40

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HecatesHat · 28/09/2020 15:32

I'm surprised Jones hasn't cancelled Maugham after his inappropriate HIV joke earlier this year. Truly does seem that it's one rule for some...

SunsetBeetch · 28/09/2020 15:26

I've just realised that another tedious wanker, Owen Jones, retweeted this one.

Anyway, here is a lovely meme I found on twitter.

Look who is coming out to bat (again)
PronounssheRa · 28/09/2020 13:37

I've been worried for a while that he would drag the good law project into this.

multivac · 28/09/2020 13:30

he is so certain puberty blockers are reversible

Not unless he's got a fucking time machine, they're not.

ArabellaScott · 28/09/2020 13:07

I think I'd rather trust an 'amateur hobbyist' than a doctor who has had their licence suspended due to their unethical practises, and subsequently fled the country to continue providing off-label meds via the internet, tbh.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/09/2020 12:55

Tweets protected now. Back into the echo chamber.