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Trans women in sport vs funding - arguments

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CoffeeTeaChocolate · 28/09/2020 09:21

I know that many, including myself, are trying to raise awareness of the difference in physical ability between natal men and natal women due to male puberty. I sometimes use the chart which compares college boys with female Olympic athletes.

I was discussing with a feminist friend who has a very sporty daughter and she initially did not want to have the conversation. It appears that these charts and statistics are used by other groups to justify lower pay for female athletes.

I was unaware of this Blush. I think it may be useful to mention this double whammy in discussions, I.e used to justify lower pay for women whilst simultaneously being ignored to steal part of whatever money is left from natal women. Before leading the discussion to missed opportunities and risk of physical harm.

Has this already been discussed here?

What do people think?

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midgebabe · 28/09/2020 09:30

Yes people will use anything they can do justify lower wages

The climbing community tends to recognise and value the differences. Yes men will have greater upper body strength and reach, the women tend to have great technique... balance and flexibility, because they start to learn that much earlier in their climbing career

So if your focus is only on power routes, you can justify lower wages for women.

If you switch your focus to routes that need balance and flexibility , you could justify higher wages for women ?

Not sure if this applies to other sports

The whole issue of accepting differences is fraught. Women on average will have more time away from work since they are the only ones who get pregnant. So their lifetime contributions in terms of worked hours will be less, hence they will slip back compared to men , because we reward presenteeism

FindTheTruth · 28/09/2020 09:29

equal pay is right because athletes put in the same work

sex based sports is right because it's a physical biological category

FindTheTruth · 28/09/2020 09:26

So when the subject of equal pay comes up, it frustrates me because I know firsthand that I, like you, have done the same work and made the same sacrifices as our male counterparts. I would never want my daughter to be paid less than my son for the same work. Nor would you. Venus Williams

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/nov/29/dream-big-open-letter-serena-williams-porter-magazine-incredible-women-of-2016-issue-women-athletes