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Open Letter from Autors and Entertainers in Support of JKR

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Igneococcus · 27/09/2020 07:15

In the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d714149e-003d-11eb-a6ce-737681864bdd?shareToken=522b280f5312e063be007bba64a0e96d

Here is the letter (a few down the list):
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2e240198-fe6a-11ea-a6ce-737681864bdd?shareToken=8bcca8afb981c27e32894e05e7776f41

And the signatories:

We wish JK Rowling well and stand in solidarity with her.
Ian McEwan, author; Lionel Shriver, author; Griff Rhys Jones, actor; Graham Linehan, writer; Maureen Chadwick, writer; Andrew Davies, writer; Frances Barber, actress; Craig Brown, writer; Alexander Armstrong, actor; Amanda Craig, writer; Philip Hensher, writer; Susan Hill, writer; Jane Thynne, writer; Ben Miller, actor; Simon Fanshawe, writer; James Dreyfus, actor; Frances Welch, writer; Francis Wheen, writer; Arthur Matthews, writer; Aminatta Forna, writer; Joan Smith, writer; Nick Cohen, journalist; Kath Gotts, composer & lyricist; Ann McManus, writer; Eileen Gallagher, writer & producer; Jimmy Mulville, producer; Lizzie Roper, actress; Stella O’Malley, author; Nina Paley, animator; Julie Bindel, journalist; Abigail Shrier, journalist; Rachel Rooney, author; Jane Harris, writer; Tatsuya Ishida, cartoonist; Lisa Marchiano, author; Zuby, musician and author; Debbie Hayton, journalist; Gillian Philip, Author, Jonny Best, musician; Manick Govinda, arts consultant; Russell Celyn Jones, writer; Magi Gibson, writer; Victoria Whitworth, writer; Dr Mez Packer, writer; Grace Carley, producer; Sam Leith, journalist; Malcolm Clark, television producer-director; Shirley Wishart, musician; Charlotte Delaney, writer; Nehanda Ferguson, musician; Justin Hill, writer; Trezza Azzopardi, writer; Birdy Rose, artist; Jess de Wahls, textile artist; Mo Lovatt, writer; Simon Edge, novelist; Tom Stoppard, playwright; and Amanda Smyth, writer

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JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 23:16

Redmayne was a member of the all male Pitt Club at Cambridge. Sooooo inclusive, darling.

*voted to allow women in in 2017 apparently

MsTSwift · 28/09/2020 23:07

Detest Redmayne. Over privileged wide eyed prat. Dh was at university with lots of men like that - anything he is on is switched off. When he came out against JKR just confirmed our low opinion.

yourhairiswinterfire · 28/09/2020 23:06

twitter.com/ZackFord/status/1310665310677204993

Link to one. He's trending on Twatter.

yourhairiswinterfire · 28/09/2020 23:04

@TheLurkingOne

John Cleese has really thrown himself into the fray in JKs defence and he is not holding back. He is a legend.

Have any of the lame woke Harry Potter actor's done a reverse ferret yet?

Eddie Redmayne has now condemned the vitriol against JKR.

Of course, when he was chanting TWAW, everyone was high fiving and patting him on the back.

Now he's condemning death and rape threats, they're all against him because he's a "cis" man who played a transwoman 🙄

So fickle.

JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 22:35

@TheLurkingOne, this is quite funny, too. This is the passage in the LoB wiki entry about that scene:

Hardly mentioned in the discussion was the sideswipe at the women's movement, which started to draw a lot of attention in the 1970s. In accordance with the language of political activists, resistance fighter Stan wants to use “his right as a man” to be a woman. The group accepts him from that moment on as Loretta, because the right to give birth was not theirs to take. Also as a result from that, the term sibling replaces the terms brother or sister.[94]

Goodness.

JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 22:27

@TheLurkingOne, I may have to join you...

TheLurkingOne · 28/09/2020 22:23

jamielee I just had to watch that sketch again. Amazing. Says it all really.

JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 22:10

In a box? Ah, happy days

RuffleCrow · 28/09/2020 22:06

Well he did co-write and perform the sketch Transgenderism is based on. He's entitled to have the last laugh, through unpaid royalties if nothing else. Grin

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 28/09/2020 22:02

Cleese’s tweets are magnificent.

TheLurkingOne · 28/09/2020 21:52

Lame Comma woke and apologies for the stray apostrophe.

TheLurkingOne · 28/09/2020 21:49

John Cleese has really thrown himself into the fray in JKs defence and he is not holding back. He is a legend.

Have any of the lame woke Harry Potter actor's done a reverse ferret yet?

fatblackcatspaw · 28/09/2020 21:28

just been told Jenni Murray is the chair of Fawcett society! As she asked to have her name added can we hope she kicks some sense into it....

Chicchicchicchiclana · 28/09/2020 21:23

Sorry but I haven't read the whole thread this time.

I don't find this sort of thing all that impressive because I just look at it and think of about 1000 household name writers/directors/intellectuals who could have signed it and who haven't.

So, while I think all support for JKR is a good thing, I think this letter could have been saved for just a week or two until there was a longer and more varied list of signatories.

teawamutu · 28/09/2020 21:21

I hope Stephen King looks at the shit he's copping for saying he's enjoying a book and reflects on who he's aligned with and how he's acted, I really do. I thought better of him till he scuttled off.

TheHeartbeat · 28/09/2020 21:17

Yeah, it’s no coincidence that Stephen King just had to tweet today about Troubled Blood/ Rowlings greatness. I just hope she doesn’t follow him back cause what he did previously was a pretty cowardly move.

ThinEndOfTheWedge · 28/09/2020 21:05

David Grey - Fab. White Ladder was my DH’s (then DBF) first present to me.

Alexa will do overtime!

EdgeOfACoin · 28/09/2020 21:01

@Clymene

Fucking hell, Pullman's arse must be sore from sitting on that fence for so many months. I hate the whole doddery old bloke shtick he pulls too
I suppose he's trying to work out which way the wind is blowing.

Like Stephen King Hmm

FUTeams · 28/09/2020 20:48

@StephanieRang

www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-the-hard-shoulder/person-targeted-no-longer-seen-human

Stella O'Malley on irish radio this afternoon. Well done Stella! Excellent job.
Bear in mind this topic is never on mainstream media in Ireland!

That was great - Stella was brilliant! I am full of admiration for women who express themselves so well (it helps when the interviewer lets them).
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 28/09/2020 20:32

Is there a list somewhere with all the people who have asked to be added?

Siablue · 28/09/2020 20:29

@ARoombaOfOnesOwn

I do wonder how they organise these sorts of things.

So do I! I’m not notable enough to have ever been asked to sign one Grin

Don’t worry neither is Phillip Pullman. 🤣 But if he’d asked them he would have signed it but he might not. 🤷🏽‍♀️
ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 28/09/2020 20:27

I do wonder how they organise these sorts of things.

So do I! I’m not notable enough to have ever been asked to sign one Grin

Pertella · 28/09/2020 20:26

@Siablue

David Grey (singer) has signed it and he is Rachel Rooney’s brother in law. I think there are going to be more people as it seems that a lot of people didn’t know about the letter. I do wonder how they organise these sorts of things.
I must buy another copy of White Ladder, I loved that album back in the day, had it on repeat in the car.
RuffleCrow · 28/09/2020 20:18

Ooh, I love Alexander Armstrong on Classic Fm. Hopefully their one woke listener won't bother writing in.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 28/09/2020 20:15

@7Days

Childrens and YA lit is in a total state these days.

All I can think about is Victorian Improving Tales for Children.

Oh, so much this. Glad someone else has seen the similarity.