I ❤️ J K Rowling Spreading across USA

I’m saying we shouldn’t have to denigrate other social movements so that we can assert our rights. What did you think of the studies I shared? I’ve got another: psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-31802-001

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6798808/

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164

These are two peer-reviewed studies I’ve found

Doing a bit of googling and looks like Chris Elston is (perhaps?) a Scientologist. Utah is the Mormon state which is very conservative.

While JKR certainly makes good points and there is strong research to suggest that we are really wading into the unknown when it comes to trans issues, I don’t understand why this is her crucible? Particularly when she is just as ignorant as everyone else on this issue. The research is still inconclusive and no one has all the answers about trans people, but we do know there is a high suicide rate within this population! It’s irresponsible of JKR to anoint herself as an authority on this issue. She is openly betraying her trans fans when they might’ve been loyal to her for years, having found refuge in the world she created. Women shouldn’t disappear from global narratives just as trans people shouldn’t — we can work together instead of falling prey to the age-old cliche of stepping on the neck of another minority for our own elevation. We don’t have to condemn the whole of the trans movements just because it isn’t perfect. But the feminism thread on here seems to constantly be an echo chamber of transphobia, so I’m sure my comment isn’t well-received.

My initial reaction was that isn't Utah a very religiously right wing state? I'd worry about jk being used in the wrong way by people who don't help the main points.

Talking to an American recently who fully understands the debates around body image and brains not being stereotypically sexed etc but as she's in the thick of a Christian Right wing area, her natural default is more towards be kind than gender critical when it comes down to discussions around sports etc.

I think the dam wall has sprung a leak, and opposition is starting to trickle down. There’s always a point in social movement where the message is diluted and standard-bearers way downstream, take up the fight. I think that can be frustrating for women who’ve been in the fight from the beginning, but a flood which is shallow and a bit muddy will reach more people than a pristine pool

There's been another poster on here in recent days lecturing us about how wrong it is for Harry to have taken his case and clutching their pearls about feminists getting in with the wrong crowd.
So although I actually agree with people's concerns about the USA posters, it is inevitable that as the general public get hold of the outrages, lots of people who I/we don't normally agree with will get involved. But that's how democracy works.

I wish more celebrities would speak up and relieve her of the burden of being the figurehead for this movement.

Not quite as high profile, but a start.

Also Amy Hamm (spelling? Preta6 on twitter) seemed to bow out very quickly and I'm worried why.

I noticed that too.

I suppose all will be made clearer in time.

I think the dam wall has sprung a leak, and opposition is starting to trickle down. There’s always a point in social movement where the message is diluted and standard-bearers way downstream, take up the fight. I think that can be frustrating for women who’ve been in the fight from the beginning, but a flood which is shallow and a bit muddy will reach more people than a pristine pool.

I am nervous about it.

I'm nervous that a man is taking control of it. A man who is never knew of before he did.

Also Amy Hamm (spelling? Preta6 on twitter) seemed to bow out very quickly and I'm worried why.

If Posie wanted to do this or had the funding behind her or bandwidth, I'm sure she'd be doing it. The guy doing this talks about all the organizing he's doing to get this done. No one else got out and did that, so it's easy to say another group or individual should go do it, but the truth is, they could have, and no one did. I'd rather have the ads than not, personally!

I really hope more women will see these and just start doing more campaigns ourselves. We should make our own billboards, ads etc. with other, more nuanced messages. Why isn't anyone doing it?

I think new branding is needed to represent this whole thing.... if all the amazing heroines came up with new branding for the cause, I'd happily donate to make it happen

Yes, I agree.

JKR's essay was so nuanced and sensible, I don't like the thought of her name becoming associated with some less palatable ideas. I'm nervous about the Superbowl plan. American political ads are not known for their gentleness and subtlety. I just hope JKR is shown as standing up for women and children, not as anti-trans.

I wish more celebrities would speak up and relieve her of the burden of being the figurehead for this movement.

I guess if it gets people talking and actually reading her essay that's a good thing.

someone in the thread's saying the Superbowl is next.

Thread: AIBU - to think the I heart JKR brand is using her identity, outside of her control?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4021170-AIBU-to-think-the-I-heart-JKR-brand-is-using-her-identity-outside-of-her-control

you're spot on...particularly using her brand for ideas she might not agree with

I love the show of support
I love the speaking up
BUT
I think new branding is needed to represent this whole thing.... if all the amazing heroines came up with new branding for the cause, I'd happily donate to make it happen

He should hand it back to Posie in that case.

Wonderful to hear this! In general, the US situation seemed hopeless, so it's really heartening to see signs of life.

I’d agree with that bettybeans.

The man responsible for organising them is already tweeting about stressful this all is and how much hate he’s getting (gosh). And about arguing with feminists. I’m hoping it’s not all going to end in tears.

I love this a whole lot but I'm also a little nervy about making love for JKR synonymous with a broad set of political ideas, some of which she will agree with and some that she perhaps won't. It takes her agency away to some extent. She's given up a whole lot to support women who weren't being heard and that's great, but we shouldn't exploit that too much or take advantage of it. She speaks for herself and it's so powerful when she does, there's ways to build on that without just attaching her name to it. I worry that she'll be forced to retreat if/when she loses control of how her name is being used.

That's my thoughts on it.

It's good to see a fightback in the United States against gender ideology.
The US has never had any mainstream coverage of the GC position in national newspapers that happened here (except the Guardian).
Perhaps this will start a conversation.

Spreading exponentially now it seems. That prase has been a bad thing for so long, but fits quite well here, in good news

Super Bowl tends to be in February I think so plenty of time for the money to be raised

It absolutely brilliant and I dearly hope JKR knows about all of these. Please can someone make a compilation of all the bill boards at some point. A Super Bowl advert would be stunning, a total up yours to the haters,

Chris is talking about doing an advert on TV for Super Bowl