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I ❤️ J K Rowling Spreading across USA

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Winesalot · 26/09/2020 22:20

Now in Salt Lake City, Utah.

twitter.com/christophelston/status/1309685206283030528?s=21

‘ Salt Lake City loves JK Rowling! ❤️

Thank you to our new friend who has decided to take a stand for JK, for women and children, and for the State of Utah.

Sir, you are the best. Those 15 boards throughout the State have never looked so good!’ 26/9/20

Apparently the San Francisco billboard is was up today and seen by 1/2 million drivers.

And they are going up in about more 40 locations in the USA according to Chris.

Thank you Chris and the donors. I think there is a bit of crowd funding happening too.

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FairfaxAikman · 02/10/2020 14:36

Well he's posted saying he's not being a feminist ally, he's "doing his own thing". If that's the case why not come up with his own campaign rather than hijacking the Standing For Women one.

He blocked me when I called him out on that.

Deliriumoftheendless · 02/10/2020 06:52

Yippee Thank you for your comments re Bipolar there are many lifelong MH issues that have links to suicide and suicide attempts which i would say needs compassion, understanding and support.

Yet too many who throw unreliable suicide stats around in defence of the removal of women’s current rights treat MH issues as a stigma, use MH slurs and are quite happy to see MH issues as something shameful.

Funny how “be kind” stops applying there, isn’t it?

It’s disgusting.

Winesalot · 01/10/2020 21:54

Yippee

It is a problematic statistic that is ‘weaponised’ as they say. I am glad you are ok at the moment. Long may it continue.

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Winesalot · 01/10/2020 21:51

There is one now in LA and one in Portland.

twitter.com/christophelston/status/1311455785596063744?s=21

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Malahaha · 01/10/2020 20:30

Oh, that should be interesting! It seems that he really is one to watch.

NecessaryScene1 · 01/10/2020 20:04

I think being dad to two girls could motivate a man enough to get active and, well, do something.

Particularly in Canada. His other bugbear appears to be the SOGI (Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity) curriculum in Canada, which I understand makes some of the things we've from outfits like No Outsiders seen look quite tame, and is being very centrally pushed.

For his next campaign, he's threatening to post some of its contents up on billboards....

If I'm recalling correctly from an interview (that I can't find) the personal background is that he's a friend of Amy Hamm - he was particularly radicalised by her run-in with Yaniv (when he accused her of voyeurism or something in a courtroom toilet).

Malahaha · 01/10/2020 19:54

There’s something bothering me too but I can’t put my finger on it. Who is this guy? The first I heard of him was when the billboard was put up in Vancouver and now he is all over this. Something’s not quite right.

His Twitter profile says:
Father of two girls and I (Redheart) JK Rowling for standing up for their rights.

I think being dad to two girls could motivate a man enough to get active and, well, do something.

highame · 01/10/2020 16:33

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Babdoc · 01/10/2020 16:07

Is it just me, or does all this dramatic threatening to kill themselves basically amount to little more than emotional blackmail?
In no other area of society do we alter behaviour or laws to placate a group threatening self harm. To claim that they must override women’s rights and have free access to all our single sex spaces, “otherwise it will be our fault they kill themselves” doesn’t deserve a moment of anyone’s serious consideration.
If they are genuinely mentally ill enough to be suicidal they need psychiatric help.
And yet they repeatedly insist that theirs is not a psychiatric condition. Trying to have it both ways, and abandoning logic and reason in the process, no?

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 01/10/2020 13:08

I have Bipolar and BPD. The Trans suicide rates thing gives the fucking rage if I’m honest.

I have a something like 80% likelihood of killing myself with my combination of MH diagnoses. I’ve tried several times. I’m thankfully well right now, but does this mean that when I’m not I should be pandered to? Can I get everyone else to agree that yes, my reality is the real reality?

Why is Trans the magic word for this? It’s nonsense. This is not how we deal with people at risk of SH and suicide.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/10/2020 13:07

He says that "all the transphobia nonsense (In the USA) and the TERF wars "just comes from a relative handful of confused teenagers and young woke ‘adults’ sitting in their basements, firing off nasty tweets while playing Fortnite."

I think he's correct that they are a significant proportion of the anime avatar crew on Twitter.

Winesalot · 01/10/2020 12:44

Well. The posters in the US seem to be left up. What condition they are in is another story. Chris seems to be activating multiple signs in a region in the US so the message in some areas really cannot be missed.

The Vancouver poster was vandalised before it was removed within 24 hours of it going up.

I think Chris is still crowdfunding to put up more.

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FindTheTruth · 01/10/2020 12:43

@CopsCantCatchCriminals

Are the American I❤️JKROWLING posters faring better than they do here?
I want to know this too. Am I right in thinking that they're not being taken down immediately? if so, that's an improvement
CopsCantCatchCriminals · 01/10/2020 12:41

Are the American I❤️JKROWLING posters faring better than they do here?

Malahaha · 01/10/2020 12:27

I came across this rather interesting update from @christophelston

twitter.com/christophelston/status/1311533465142140928

He says that "all the transphobia nonsense (In the USA) and the TERF wars "just comes from a relative handful of confused teenagers and young woke ‘adults’ sitting in their basements, firing off nasty tweets while playing Fortnite."

I suspect though that there's more to it than that. To me, it sounds as if the US is completely captured. That everyone just goes along the mantra.

Winesalot · 28/09/2020 22:07

Now in Washington DC!

twitter.com/christophelston/status/1310654506766462976?s=21

I ❤️ J K Rowling Spreading across USA
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Jux · 28/09/2020 14:59

👍

SunsetBeetch · 28/09/2020 06:37

@Winesalot

I said her tweets were irresponsible

Anyone who holds Joanne Rowling responsible for someone choosing to take their own life is the person who is irresponsible. And the lobby groups who have not been focused on real gains in providing greater mental health care to improve acceptance of themselves and their lives.

Hear, hear!
Winesalot · 27/09/2020 22:38

Let’s face it, anyone who uses phrases like stepping on the neck of another minority for our own elevation in regards to the efforts women are making to maintain the protections for their needs is here only to shame women discussing those protections and how to keep them. And to explicitly blame another woman, who has spoken out about these rights using language that is clearly making a case for those rights, for other’s decisions and poor mental health.

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littlbrowndog · 27/09/2020 22:36

Yeah datun. Women asserting their boundaries cause men to be suicial

And yeah ereskh some of the shite that men trot out might make women feel suiciadal

But hey we are just women

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 22:31

Don't people realise that claiming women's boundaries are responsible for suicidal thoughts in men, makes the men look absolutely unhinged.

Not exactly an advert for inclusion, is it?

Quite. Really not sure why people think this is some sort of slam dunk argument. Unless they really have no regard for women at all. What if our boundaries and feelings being so comprehensively trampled on makes some women depressed and suicidal? Who has even asked that question?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 22:27

I’ve provided peer-reviews articles, you’ve provided an essay and an article from a website that is anti-trans (fairplayforwomen.com). My stats were at least from scientific journals

It would be good for you to engage with other people's arguments rather than dismissing the evidence they present out of hand as "anti trans", especially as it seems many of the people here are more informed than you about a number of relevant things.

Datun · 27/09/2020 22:26

Don't people realise that claiming women's boundaries are responsible for suicidal thoughts in men, makes the men look absolutely unhinged.

Not exactly an advert for inclusion, is it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 22:20

Signs of an abuser tbh, weaponizing suicide in such a way. I had an ex who did this, and I stayed with him for years more than I should as I believed that if I left I would 'cause' his death. Of course, it would never have been me, had he chosen to do it. Blaming feminists for the (possible) suicides of transpeople is therefor fucking gross to me tbh. But oddly common..which always interests me. Do as we say or you are literally causing deaths, give up your rights or you are basically a murderer

Yes, completely agree. It's oddly common, because they are using it as a gotcha argument to shut down dissent. It is not acceptable to blame others, particularly those speaking up for themselves, for the poor mental health of people.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 22:17

From what I understand, talking about suicide is more helpful than not: http://suicideprevention.nv.gov/Youth/Mythss^^/^

That's not what our UK media guidelines are from the Samaritans. Causation should never be attributed to one factor, especially when dealing with young people. Are you aware of the phenomenon of suicide contagion?

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