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"I don't believe that post-modernist academia should have any influence over safeguarding frameworks that are grounded in material reality"

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timeaftertide · 26/09/2020 13:06

So a friend(ish) not close. Wishing to educate me (their words) on the trans debate sent me the Judith Butler article to persuade me of their point of view.

I responded with the above and I've heard nothing since.

I work in a professional role with children. Any chance this could get me burned at the stake or have we moved on from that now?

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PurpleHoodie · 28/09/2020 10:09

Wonderful quote.

If you have to send it again, highlight your word SAFEGUARDING in bold.

Gncq · 28/09/2020 10:08

I can't believe anyone would actually send a link to a Judith Butler article to prove anything

ChattyLion · 28/09/2020 10:06

That’s a beautifully succinct and complete reply you've made there.

Dervel · 26/09/2020 17:49

That is an armour piercing statement if ever I saw one! Respect OP!

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timeaftertide · 26/09/2020 17:21

@Stripesgalore

I agree with your response, but people who base their careers on post modernism probably view it as more offensive than anything anyone says about trans.
Grin

I've a degree in Sociology and an MSc in a related discipline so at least my friend(ish) won't be able to accuse me of not being able to understand post modernist academia.

Still tumbleweed from her

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Kantastic · 26/09/2020 16:39

I clicked on this thread to find out where the quote was from! That's a great response OP, it encapsulates the whole issue very neatly.

And FWIW I can't see how the meaning of that quote can be distorted out of context so I don't see how you could get in trouble for it. Though if they're particularly malicious/indoctrinated I suppose they could just invent something you said and attribute that to you, like TRAs have done with Maya Forstater and JK Rowling.

DialSquare · 26/09/2020 16:18

I'm not surprised you haven't had a response! There's not much they can say to that as it's pretty perfect.

Stripesgalore · 26/09/2020 16:17

I agree with your response, but people who base their careers on post modernism probably view it as more offensive than anything anyone says about trans.

Wearywithteens · 26/09/2020 16:12

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moofolk · 26/09/2020 16:04

Excellent response.

That interview was complete nonsense.

Have you seen that lovely Phoebe's response video to it? She's so young yet so aware it gives me so much hope.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIzbhejCeek

GrossePois · 26/09/2020 15:23

I think I might be using that! Fantastic response.

HumphreyCobblers · 26/09/2020 14:55

That is superb response. You are entirely correct.

Wildswim · 26/09/2020 14:53

I don't know the answer to your question but I like your quote.

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