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Do most men see women as potential victims? Horrible recent experience has really messed me up.

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Loryn · 25/09/2020 20:23

Trigger warning mentions conversations about rape.
I wrote about this in relationships.
At the time I was feeling ashamed of myself and sad.
Now I'm furious. Im so angry at him and myself.
This has affected me so badly, which makes me feel weak, I think thats what im angry with myself about.
Im wondering if most men are like this deep down and this one just let it out after quite a while.
Do all men see us like this on a base level?
Its true in a way isnt it?
I am a potential rape victim.
We all are, if we come across a potential rapist.
So if we know that, deep down, walking around, do men know that too and think about it?

Apologies if this is doesnt make much sense, I cant talk about this in real life.

"Staying at a hotel with a man that ive been seeing, we were drinking, all going well until the conversation took a turn.
Cant remember all the ins and outs or how we even go onto it but I said I didnt think rape jokes are funny, ever.
I think he was defending from a freedom of speech position, maybe fine but not really the time or the place but we had been drinking and we both do usually enjoy having a debate.
Then he called me a potential rape victim.
I got up to get away from him and he said what about men, men get raped too.
I stayed in the bathroom for a while, crying and wondering what to do.
My car was parked in the carpark and I couldnt drive home.
I came out and he apologised.
I asked him if he or his brother or best friend have been raped and maybe thats the difference why he can think its funny and I cant.
I think he thought I was disclosing to him that it had happened to me, which I feel guilty about as if ive lied to make a point, I've not been raped but other more nuanced things have happened that I won't go into details of now and certainly was not about to share with him there and then.
He said sorry I didn't know, I just said you dont need to know.
Im ashamed that I stayed there and pretended that everything was normal in the morning.
I should have got an uber and left him there.
We haven't really spoken since, I dont want a confrontation about it but I cant stop thinking about it and wondering what the hell is wrong with him and also me.
Obviously I wont be seeing him again."

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notyourhandmaid · 25/09/2020 20:43

I'm so sorry you've had this experience. Some wariness about men in general is normal, unfortunately. But most are not creeps.

CaraDuneRedux · 25/09/2020 20:34

No, most decent men do not think this way IMO.

The only men I've known who do this sort of thing are men who are dodgy as fuck, who are deliberately probing to see where your boundaries are and how robust they are, early on in knowing you.

They wouldn't want to put a whole load of energy into trying to groom a woman who turned out to have robust boundaries.

The two men from my past who immediately spring to mind: one turned out to have been violent towards his previous girlfriend; the other turned out to have anally raped his previous girlfriend.

There is a hell of a lot wrong with him, and absolutely nothing wrong with you. Your spidey senses told you he was a wrong un (hence the visceral reaction and hiding in the loo). Okay so you then stayed - but we are socialised to be nice, to be forgiving, to not act on our fears.

Block him and move on. And buy yourself a copy of Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear.

MerchantOfVenom · 25/09/2020 20:32

No, I don’t believe most men think like this at all.

Please tell me you’re having nothing more to do with this man?

sawdustformypony · 25/09/2020 20:29

Do most men think of women as potential victims ? No, I'd say.

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