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Another one for Irish Feminists - this person holds a GRC and might soon be held in Dochas prison with women and childrem

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XXSex · 25/09/2020 12:05

This is a harrowing read.
I feel immensely sorry for the child that was. However I feel more frightened for the women and children G might be incarcerated with.

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SecondRow · 13/10/2020 09:08

Isn't today the day Barbie is due back in court?

CoolYourBeans, it was questioned whether he had in fact been released - a tweeter commented that no bail hearing had been listed that day so the assumption was that he was still remanded in Limerick Prison until we hear otherwise from official sources.
twitter.com/BridledScold/status/1312819601881923587?s=20

CoolYourBeansMySon · 07/10/2020 12:35

Does anyone know what has happened to Barbie since they have been out? I thought part of the concern was that they are of no fixed abode having been in care. I'm very concerned about the girls in the video above being taken advantage of.

Gottalife · 07/10/2020 08:57

@Cailleach1

Rose of Dawn made one important error. The report doesn't state that any violence was carried out on Barbie by their mother in the Women's Refuge.

The staff in the Women's Refuge had significant concerns about the level of violence that had been perpetuated by Barbie upon her mother.

She has put a correction in the comments.
SunsetBeetch · 07/10/2020 06:52

@Cailleach1

Rose of Dawn made one important error. The report doesn't state that any violence was carried out on Barbie by their mother in the Women's Refuge.

The staff in the Women's Refuge had significant concerns about the level of violence that had been perpetuated by Barbie upon her mother.

Yeah I did notice that and thought it didn't make sense.
MotherForkinShirtBalls · 07/10/2020 00:01

@Cailleach1

Rose of Dawn made one important error. The report doesn't state that any violence was carried out on Barbie by their mother in the Women's Refuge.

The staff in the Women's Refuge had significant concerns about the level of violence that had been perpetuated by Barbie upon her mother.

Yes, I spotted that too and went back through the court document to make sure I hadn't misread/ misremembered.
NRatched · 06/10/2020 23:55

On the whole ridiculous 'person with a cervix' thing, I really do not see why the answer is not 'women, and people with a cervix' or 'women and transmen' or something. If its really not about removing the word woman from everywhere and is instead about being inclusive to 'those who have a cervix and do not identify as women'. I know thats not what this thread is about, but in reply to the reply from Jennifer Carroll MacNiece

Cailleach1 · 06/10/2020 22:22

This behaviour seems to have continued as

In 2012, after perpetrating a violent attack on her mother, Barbie was the subject of a care order and has remained in care ever since

Cailleach1 · 06/10/2020 22:11

perpetrated by Barbie

Cailleach1 · 06/10/2020 22:11

Rose of Dawn made one important error. The report doesn't state that any violence was carried out on Barbie by their mother in the Women's Refuge.

The staff in the Women's Refuge had significant concerns about the level of violence that had been perpetuated by Barbie upon her mother.

Gottalife · 06/10/2020 21:29

Wow!

SunsetBeetch · 06/10/2020 19:31

Rose of Dawn has done a video on Barbie

Vanillanelle · 06/10/2020 17:23

I think that's right, XXSex. I was expecting her to dismiss the whole email.

XXSex · 06/10/2020 12:56

@Vanillanelle

I got a reply from Jennifer Carroll MacNiece. Better than I expected tbh.

"Thank you very much for taking the time to get in touch with me.

In relation to the Gender Recognition Act 2015, I note your concerns that you have outlined below and appreciate you taking the time to flag them with me.

In regards to the wording of the language on the HSE’s publications relating to cervical screening, I do understand the issue at hand here. I understand your concern for those who might not recognise or instantly relate to the term ‘people with a cervix’, and the impact this may have on their health. I will raise this with my colleagues and discuss it with them."

So will raise the impact if deleting the word woman but head in the sand re the GRA. Is this a correct interpretation?
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Vanillanelle · 05/10/2020 16:52

I got a reply from Jennifer Carroll MacNiece. Better than I expected tbh.

"Thank you very much for taking the time to get in touch with me.

In relation to the Gender Recognition Act 2015, I note your concerns that you have outlined below and appreciate you taking the time to flag them with me.

In regards to the wording of the language on the HSE’s publications relating to cervical screening, I do understand the issue at hand here. I understand your concern for those who might not recognise or instantly relate to the term ‘people with a cervix’, and the impact this may have on their health. I will raise this with my colleagues and discuss it with them."

Cailleach1 · 05/10/2020 09:10

Ok, so it seems, under Irish law, the crime of rape can only be carried out by a man (Unless some legislation has since amended this). This still stands applies to a man who declares under ID he is a woman.

Section 22: Gender-specific offences
A number of sexual offences in this jurisdiction are gender specific. For example, the common law offence of rape can only be committed by a man. The offence is committed by a man against a woman who does not consent to it. Other offences can only be committed against or in relation to a person of a particular gender.

From data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2014/116/eng/memo/b11614d-memo.pdf

Malahaha · 04/10/2020 14:59

ooops, forgot the link: gript.ie/homicidal-biological-male-who-has-threatened-to-rape-and-kill-women-has-been-placed-into-a-female-prison/

(apologies if it has been posted before)

Malahaha · 04/10/2020 14:58

Sorry, I didn't realise that that video was on Facebook.
Here's the same video on the Gript website. The presenter it obviously horrified: "What a shock. Who could have seen this coming? God forbid if any women in that prison are attacked or worse, we all know that the inept virtue-signalling politicians who implemented this law are to blame."

Malahaha · 04/10/2020 14:50

Has this video been posted yet? It is actually very critical of the Barbie case. It should shock the general public enough to get them investigating.

www.facebook.com/GriptMedia/videos/3630039923682080

swingsandroundabouts1 · 04/10/2020 10:54

There is nothing online about it. Tbh if the transwoman in that video is not Barbie, there is a risk to her too. You will always get idiots who will take the law into their own hands. Which in turn plays into the hands of those that label anyone with GC views as bigots, and that trans women are so persecuted.

7Days · 04/10/2020 09:23

Barbie is out??

Ringsender2 · 03/10/2020 21:50

Holy fuckballs

PearPickingPorky · 03/10/2020 21:21

If Barbie is out and getting female attention then I am really worried that some poor girl is going to end up getting really badly hurt.

peanut2017 · 03/10/2020 20:16

Yeah that's probably it

I worked for a well known charity before and some of the people who worked there were horrible people. It was for people with disabilities and they no more cared about people with disabilities than the man on the moon

Can attract an evil type of person

MadamBatty · 03/10/2020 20:12

I’ve come across many people who work for charities who want to show the world what a truly caring person rather are.

MadamBatty · 03/10/2020 20:09

Cow bag? Wagon? Selfish biatch?

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