Another one for Irish Feminists - this person holds a GRC and might soon be held in Dochas prison with women and childrem

Barbie changed their name in August. At 18 years and 8 months of age.

Under 18 you can get a GRC in Ireland but it needs to be approved by a judge.

I've seen the letters sent and am awaiting a copy of the court order but it looks to be balls from what I've seen, as in Tusla hiding something

Do you have to be 18 years old to get a Certificate showing you id as the opposite sex? If so, the person in question was known by their original name and identity as an adult; even if just fleetingly before they changed their name.

Cailleach1, going by the mainstream news outlets - RTE News and the Irish Independent, which still have articles online, Barbie Kardashian has and can be named, in connection with the charges for which he is currently on remand. Offences committed when already an adult and charged under his current name.

We don't know the exact contents of what Tusla wrote to Gript but it seems highly likely that it is about linking court reports about the young person's past (when he was in Tusla's care for many years) with the identity of the now-adult.

The issue of him being in the women's prison seems to be entirely down to the GRA but is somewhat separate from whether a minor's horrific history (as both a victim and perpetrator) would prejudice fair trial or generally fair treatment of the person as he is now.

I don't understand why Barbie cannot be named and the fact Barbie is 'id' ing as a woman. Not a victim with right to privacy. In fact and adult male who had stated their intention is to commit crimes against women. As women are half the population of Ireland, that is a matter of huge public interest and women have a right to know who has stated they wish to rape and murder women.

Barbie can't be sectioned as an assessment showed that barbie was capable of making decisions.

Its why barbie is no longer a ward of Tùsla and is in the women's section of limerick gaol

He/she should have been sectioned. If any harm is done while they are on the rampage, the authorities are up for serious compo claims.

I was actually surprised that at the first court hearing on 26th September the fact of him being male was openly reported by mainstream media (Irish Independent).

That's only because we've been conditioned by cases in the British media where it is press guidelines that dictate that a person's transgender status should not be mentioned unless it is directly relevant. Which of course it is with male-pattern criminality, but it's largely not reported as such in British media.

It is a good thing if the Gardai and Irish media haven't yet been subjected to such guidelines.

I see that RTE also reported on the case,
www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0929/1168303-court-threats/
including the fact that he is male, but without any of the background jigsaw identification details.

SecondRow

The burkean has taken down all barbie related news, the grpt is fighting it amd YouTube has blocked all barbie related videos in Ireland.

We are trying to see who else has gotten letters threatening lega action.
Any order relating to Tusla and Barbie would have been null and void once they were no longer a ward of the state so they are probably trying to hide their failure of when barbie was in care.

Let's hope it's not anything more sinister than that

Amalfimamma, I said back upthread that there were probably legal ructions going on in the background related to the linking together of (1) what were originally anonymized court reports on a (then) child, (2) the internal Garda bulletin including old and new names, and arguably (3) the details of name change by deed poll (I gather this is a public document but nobody would have gone looking were it not for 1 and 2).

The court order from July 2020 must be what originally led to the "homicidal teenage girl about to be released" stories which unsurprising led to everyone going "huh? That doesn't sound right."

I do not know who first made this jigsaw identification but in all likelihood the links will have come from someone close to the case who acted in the public interest - I hope they are not victimized by Tusla, whoever they are.

Will be watching to see if other news outlets cave.

It just doesn’t bear thinking about what women prisoners are being put through to validate others.

Butterer,

No worries at all, I was just responding to you.

Anyway this issue is always male to female infiltrators because they can. Command and control. I often wonder why female to male are so invisible in the debate.

If he dresses and expresses himself to be a woman with male genitals, of course he wouldn't be safe in a male prison. But really who cares about that aspect. I don't.

I only care about vulnerable women exposed to this bullshit in a women's prison, or any space that can be infiltrated by these people.

I think that would be normal. Thinking of daughters, myself, my sisters female friends and so on. Ugh.

Now riddle me this.

Why is Tusla threatening legal action? Barbie is not their ward and is no longer a minor so what are they trying to hide (again)

gript.ie/barbie-kardashian-the-story-tusla-wants-to-keep-a-secret/

Butterer,

Yes. The motive for infiltrating women's spaces is gone if he cannot mingle.

Prison staff know the score.

irishfeminist

Get real here please. There are some very violent women, and women who have killed also.

My point was that Barbie is not going to have it easy. And there is no need to tell me about Barbie either, I know.

It is appalling having a man in a women's prison just because he says he is a woman.

That is the issue really. Address that before getting on my case!

I wish people would understand this.

Unfortunately it is what Barbie wants

At a previous appearance of Limerick District Court on September 26, gardai had informed the court that Ms Kardashian was born a male but had identified as female, and was “very anxious she be detained in a prison facility for females, as she identifies as a female”.

Unsurprisingly.

Unless I missed the point of that post, which I think I might have.

TBH I would think he would be in more danger from the real women in Limerick Prison. He is probably in isolation anyway.

It might not be what he wants. Because he is a he.

Thanks Amalfimamma

From that Limerick Leader article (and thanks to them for covering this)

Prosecuting sergeant Sean Moloney told the judge that gardai are awaiting directions from the Director of Public Prosecutions, and asked that the matter be revisited in four weeks.

Judge Larkin remanded the accused in custody at the women’s section of the Mulgrave Street prison, and to appear before Limerick District Court via video link on November 10.

Continuing bail today. It's doubtful he was ever out tbf as there was only that one video

[quote SecondRow]Isn't today the day Barbie is due back in court?

CoolYourBeans, it was questioned whether he had in fact been released - a tweeter commented that no bail hearing had been listed that day so the assumption was that he was still remanded in Limerick Prison until we hear otherwise from official sources.
twitter.com/BridledScold/status/1312819601881923587?s=20[/quote]
Oh great, so Barbie is back in with the women prisoners then? What is the further hearing today?

Back into the women's section

www.limerickleader.ie/news/news/580587/teenager-accused-of-making-threats-to-kill-remanded-in-continuing-custody-at-limerick-prison.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter