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Another one for Irish Feminists - this person holds a GRC and might soon be held in Dochas prison with women and childrem

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XXSex · 25/09/2020 12:05

This is a harrowing read.
I feel immensely sorry for the child that was. However I feel more frightened for the women and children G might be incarcerated with.

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SecondRow · 30/09/2020 08:17

I do think there are ethical issues at play. Presumably 'G''s childhood abuse, psychiatric and juvenile records as documented in court records were never meant to be linked publicly with the now adult BK. That Garda bulletin was also for internal reference I'd have thought, describing a danger to the public yes but intended for the Gardai to use the info to protect us Hmm

The leaks and putting 2 + 2 together are probably causing all kinds of consternation and possibly heads to roll behind the scenes.

That's not to say mainstream media shouldn't be on this, they absolutely should, but they may be tip toeing for legal as well as woke reasons?

miri1985 · 30/09/2020 02:52

Just saw this on twitter, apparently this site is Russian State sponsored media sputniknews.com/europe/202009301080613698-18-yo-irish-transsexual-barbie-kardashian-remanded-in-womens-jail-after-threatening-rape/
How has this made it to Russia and the Irish Times etc haven't bothered to report on it yet?

Runnersos · 29/09/2020 22:47

It must be absolutely horrendous for the women in the prison to be locked into the same building with someone who, if the opportunity arose, might rape or murder them.

Thelnebriati · 29/09/2020 22:39

I question the motives of people who enable abusers to access victims.

miri1985 · 29/09/2020 21:13

Guess whos trending in Ireland, below GGBO but ahead of Leo Varadkar

Another one for Irish Feminists - this person holds a GRC and might soon be held in Dochas prison with women and childrem
yolio · 29/09/2020 20:44

There are no "Non Woke" journalists left in Ireland or anywhere else now.

They ply their trade for those who fund them and confine themselves to their funder's ideology.

We are being brainswashed every day to accept this shit.

But some of us realise it for what it is.

I don't know what to do and am very angry now. Sorry.

peanut2017 · 29/09/2020 20:31

What can we do?

Have written to women's organisations and TD's

Do we have a march but then what about Covid and any backlash?

Do we take out an ad in the newspaper but under what organisation?

What can we learn from the UK?

Anyone know any journalists that might pick it up?

Glinner is obviously hugely supportive but as a collective of women we have to do something?

I'm willing to discuss offline as well if that's what's required

Enough is enough

yolio · 29/09/2020 20:21

Anyone know why this is happening? Have you had this message? Two days now.

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XXSex · 29/09/2020 20:12

We have to do something.

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Cailleach1 · 29/09/2020 20:08

The accounts of women who have had to be incarcerated alongside violent male offenders like this should be documented.

And any/all other incidents documented as well. Whether minutae or monstrous and all in between. The question needs to be asked why women should be locked with one cohort of males, but not other males. Indeed it seems to me that it is a cohort which has most issues with women that desire to go to the women's prison.

It reminds me of the complicity with all the sexual abuses under gift of state and church which have scarred women's lives during the 20th Century. Women and children were brutalised and their lives destroyed, and people said nothing. People could see women incarcerated like serfs in Magdalen laundries. They saw the dehumanising 'gulag' mother and baby homes and nobody cried foul when the babies birth certs were tampered with and they were shipped across to the US.

They were content with the miserable lack of access to contraception which gave women no bodily autonomy or reproductive choices. Not being able to keep their job on marriage. Could go on and on.

Those who run the state haven't really changed so much have they. Or those who are complicit in the lack of rights for women as a sex. We don't even own our own cervix. It needs to be documented so they don't pretend this time around that they are decent people who have any respect for women.

yolio · 29/09/2020 20:02

It will be every prison and heretofore female space before long.

Anti women for sure. I often wonder who is funding this shit.

Anyway, cannot help but ask how the female to males are getting on invading the men's space and competing with them in sports and so on.

That is hidden, and hopefully they are living their lives as they wish.

So it is obvious that male to females are just in it for the control element against born females. IMV.

GrainneMhaol · 29/09/2020 20:00

Ahh meant those who wont act now etc

GrainneMhaol · 29/09/2020 19:59

I think pickets on TD's constituecy offices? At least those who voted for the GRA and those who act now to do something to ammend the GRA

Annasgirl · 29/09/2020 19:48

[quote GrainneMhaol]He is in the women's prison in Limerick
www.thejournal.ie/limerick-court-case-teenager-5217824-Sep2020/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true[/quote]
I think this needs to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Is there any way we can organise a march without being infiltrated by the far right? Or a vigil in Limerick for the women in that prison? Although as I live in a lockdown area at the moment I wouldn't be able to go to Limerick.

Should we contact each other off line to chat and see where we go?

NiceGerbil · 29/09/2020 19:27

'It doesn't matter to an airline seat what biological sex someone is'

It does to some very religious Jewish men who keep asking for women to be moved away from them on flights, and the air stewards telling women to move even though it's against their own policies.

I suspect identifying as a man would not result in those men saying ok that's fine then.

Just as an aside.

Aine82 · 29/09/2020 19:15

It’s a great day for trans rights and the Self ID model in Ireland 👏

This law needs to be reviewed, immediately.

jaimebravo · 29/09/2020 18:37

This is absolutely ridiculous, Barbie is being held in Limerick women's prison. What can go wrongConfused. Barbie has form for attacking a Social Worker. I hope the Prison officers have good support.

www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-teen-charged-with-making-death-threats-against-two-individuals/

yolio · 29/09/2020 18:30

The prison authorities are on a hiding to nothing here. The law says this person with male genitals is a woman because of self ID.

There really should be a space now (albeit in a women's prison) where those who SID can be placed until things calm down.

But I bet the SJWs will be onto that straight away. It is unbelievable now.

But maybe some of the hardened lassies in Limerick Prison will be looked out for now as they should be, and will fight their corner, but they shouldn't have to anymore.

This is just so bizarre I have few more words now to express how I feel without losing my shit.

Runnersos · 29/09/2020 18:22

I'm not one bit surprised. I don't think they had any choice but to put a legal "woman" anywhere else other than a woman's prison. This is the problem when biology is considered irrelevant.

notyourhandmaid · 29/09/2020 18:20

"Ryan then briefly mentioned that we all need to get used to rebooting our language to gender neutral."

It doesn't matter to an airline seat what biological sex someone is. It matters very much for medical care.

SecondRow · 29/09/2020 18:11

He is in the women's prison in Limerick

Comments turned off in that Journal article Angry

ReiltinDubh · 29/09/2020 18:04

Oh my good god I can't believe they actually went ahead and put him in the women's prison. Outrageous

yolio · 29/09/2020 17:42

I really hate being made to feel suspicious of change and forced to use 'thin end of the wedge' thinking; but I've never seen another movement like this.

Totally agree.

I sent off my email to all female TDs today, short and sweet, but did mention safeguarding. I hope they realise that women like ourselves are concerned. And they should be also.

Great thread, and kudos to those who started it and contributed. We need to get tough now.

The tide seems to be turning a teeny bit. But I am very worried about the funding behind the Trans groups. Wonder why they do that?

SerenityNowwwww · 29/09/2020 17:42

I read one of the things they did. Oh my dear god. Pure barbaric, Just can’t be sane - just can’t be if what I read was true...why not a psych ward?

GrainneMhaol · 29/09/2020 17:32

He is in the women's prison in Limerick
www.thejournal.ie/limerick-court-case-teenager-5217824-Sep2020/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

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