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Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

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VortexofBloggery · 24/09/2020 12:03

Flagged up by Sammy Woodhouse on Twitter.
mobile.twitter.com/sammywoodhouse1/status/1308822025797013509

Supported by who else but NSPCC.

Adults can buy a single ticket.

To Shut it down, Change petition here:
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Attended by convicted paedophile
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4047602.convicted-brierfield-paedophile-member-naturist-club/

Unbelievable.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 15:30

Oh stop it pelleas. We are talking about naked children who have no say in the fact they’re naked. Protecting children’s dignity, feelings and rights should be paramount.

Yes, it should, and in literally any other circumstances social services would be involved. I think they should here too. Stop imposing your adult hobby on your children.

DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 15:29

@Pelleas

That doesn't improve your argument. Basically you are saying it's fine for parents to bully, intimidate or coerce their children to be naked in public in front of strangers because some other people are cool with it

I haven't once said that. Inventing things and claiming others have said them doesn't improve your argument, either.

Actually you did say exactly that. I suggest you read back your own posts.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 15:28

That doesn't improve your argument. Basically you are saying it's fine for parents to bully, intimidate or coerce their children to be naked in public in front of strangers because some other people are cool with it.

And please don't bother pointing out parents often have to make children do things children don't like-e.g going to school, eating broccoli, - these things have some benefit. Public nudity hasn't.

All this.

Pelleas · 27/09/2020 15:28

@Handsoffisback

pelleas the specific question about why children need to be exposed to other people’s genitals has not been answered.
Several posters have pointed out the benefits of naturism that some enjoy.

No one has claimed it's enjoyable for everyone.

It is not about 'need' - we don't live our lives on the basis of only doing what we need to do. No family 'needs' a holiday in Disneyland, but that doesn't mean there's no justification for taking one if your family enjoys it.

DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 15:27

@Pelleas

It has already been answered by me and others on this thread - you have just chosen not to accept the answers because you don't agree with them.
Has it? I don't recall seeing much beyond some waffle that seeing naked strangers means children won't think everyone looks like, say Brad Pitt or Michelle Pfeiffer (just picked at random) at their most beautiful

Oh and I'm paraphrasing all that guff about "real bodies" before anyone leaps to say they didn't say that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/09/2020 15:27

There’s no fucking community or beautiful parenting style going in here, the only difference is people displaying their genitals to each other.

I agree. People are gaily handwaving away the actual fact that people on this thread have been subjected to this against their will as children, and that children can't meaningfully give consent to other adults seeing them naked. Of course that's possibly also going to be the case for children they encounter as part of their "lifestyle".

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Pelleas · 27/09/2020 15:24

That doesn't improve your argument. Basically you are saying it's fine for parents to bully, intimidate or coerce their children to be naked in public in front of strangers because some other people are cool with it

I haven't once said that. Inventing things and claiming others have said them doesn't improve your argument, either.

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DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 15:23

My reply was to Pelleas

Pelleas · 27/09/2020 15:23

It has already been answered by me and others on this thread - you have just chosen not to accept the answers because you don't agree with them.

DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 15:22

That doesn't improve your argument. Basically you are saying it's fine for parents to bully, intimidate or coerce their children to be naked in public in front of strangers because some other people are cool with it.

And please don't bother pointing out parents often have to make children do things children don't like-e.g going to school, eating broccoli, - these things have some benefit. Public nudity hasn't.

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Pelleas · 27/09/2020 15:17

@DidoLamenting

There are situations in which I have felt humiliated, undignified or uncomfortable, but which others are comfortable with. I don't see it as a reason to ban everyone from doing something, just because I (and possibly others) are frightened of it

You are an adult. You will also in most situations have the ability to remove yourself from the situation which made you feel humiliated etc. etc.

I was actually referring to situations in childhood Dido.
DidoLamenting · 27/09/2020 15:15

There are situations in which I have felt humiliated, undignified or uncomfortable, but which others are comfortable with. I don't see it as a reason to ban everyone from doing something, just because I (and possibly others) are frightened of it

You are an adult. You will also in most situations have the ability to remove yourself from the situation which made you feel humiliated etc. etc.

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Pelleas · 27/09/2020 14:57

@Handsoffisback

pelleas we are not just talking about abuse as you well know. We are talking about the lack of dignity, humiliation, feelings of not being comfortable that many people on here who were forced to attend these events have described.
There are situations in which I have felt humiliated, undignified or uncomfortable, but which others are comfortable with. I don't see it as a reason to ban everyone from doing something, just because I (and possibly others) are frightened of it.
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