Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

Goosefoot

You can see a diverse range of bodies at any normal swimming pool or beach, it's very rare to see anyone 'media worthy'. Why do they need thier clothes off to encourage body positivity?

If you are an adult and want to swim naked for whatever reason do it with other adults or alone or whatever but keep it away from kids.

Don't bring kids into it and claim 'we're a naturist family' because your kids CAN'T consent to being a naturist. You don't live in the Amazon rainforest, this isn't normal in western modern society as the dangers are innumerable and safeguarding must be in play for the safety of children.

Topless swims fine (not for me but breasts shouldn't have to be covered IMO), genitals should always be covered in the eyeshot of children.

I have no idea what his intentions were anymore than you.

He had been convicted of child sex offences, why would you assume that his intentions were anything other than dodgy.

Yes I suppose my son's teacher or dance teacher etc could be a pervert, but as I said before it's about risk vs benefit, I could keep them locked away, but they wouldn't get a good education or learn any skills or get any exercise. Apart from you not having to pull your bikini straps up every so often, you haven't really explained what benefits your children receive from swimming nude that they would not get from swimming in swim suits.

Handsoff... I suggest that you never travel to other countries then. Or is this a case of your 'culture' being superior to others? Those pesky Europeans and Scandinavians that see nudity as something quite normal 🙄

It serves the media’s purpose to portray it in such a way to evoke a response (which I guess worked!!).

Lots of people meet their friends there, particularly the young adult naturists, so they would be buying single tickets and meeting up at the event.

Hence why it’s also a fallacy to assume that someone arriving ‘alone’ is a single person and ‘staying single’ for the evening. Most naturists know at least one or two other naturists at events, and often a lot more.

Omg if I was a young tween. Having to go swimming party naked with other families. Ffs. I would rather push a pin in my eye

The though5 of being naked in front of my brothers. Or my dad

Or strangers

I have no issues with nudity or naturism. We were not a ‘naturist’ family growing up but all used to strip off on a vast isolated stretch of beach in Norfolk because everyone just did. Ditto on beaches in Greece habituated by Germans.

It really is lovely going into the sea and swimming naked.

What I do have an issue with is lone adult tickets for a naturist ‘family’ swim. Have an adult swim , fine, let anyone in. But not lone adults in a Family Swim.

@Handsoffisback

Why would I care what someone saw?

Any sensible person would care passionately about protecting a child from actual harm. However, lots of people will see them in the street everyday. As long as there is no harm to the child, what’s the difference?

The hysteria here is just bizarre.

Any children will presumably be supervised so are at no risk of harm. Simple.

If you don’t like it, don’t go. No need to spoil other’s fun.

So do you believe that Robert Enright was taking part in nudist events to enjoy simple nudity? If they let a convicted paedophile slip through the net so easily, how can you feel your children are safe?

Naturist children and (people) experience a naturist environment ie non sexual nudity

Nudity however is often sexual in nature. How do you distinguish?

I don't really get the upset about seeing people's genitals "without consent". It implies a sexualisation of all the body in all circumstances, and I think that's terribly negative.

Genitals are simply not inherently always sexual. Public bathing is normal in many places as noted. In many places family nudity is much more common. In other cultures no one wears any clothing at all. They don't go around asking for "consent" any more than I ask for consent for showing my knees when I go out in shorts. If I took my child to visit the Amazon jungle, would it be a problem that my child hasn't consented to a trip that means they might see a penis or breasts?

The main point of naturism as I understand it is to see the body as not only sexual but also simply a just a body. Old, young, thin, fat, etc. It seems to work fairly effectively at it for those who are into naturism though I think in some ways it's impractical and will never catch on widely. Though I would be all for public baths to catch on in our culture.

It makes sense to me that given the out of proportion sexualisation of nudity in our culture - the mirror of societies where women are forced to cover everything and stay away from men - naturist groups would need to be careful about attracting perverts, and as I understand it most are aware of this problem. This kind of event does seem like something that might require some thought for that reason.

As far as children being "involved" in a pervert masturbating - I don't think that's how it works. A thousand women might masturbate thinking about Brad Pitt, but he's really not involved at all.