Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

It is civilised and a societal norm in British society to wear clothes. If you bung a child into a pool and flume with a load of naked adults that they are not related to this, IMHO has the potential to ‘cause harm’ to that child.

I agree it is a societal norm in Britain to wear clothes, but something being a 'societal norm' doesn't make it right. 100 years ago it was a societal norm for women not to be allowed to vote - does that mean it was right?

In some cultures, a far greater level of modesty in dress is the societal norm. While it's to be hoped people from other cultures would respect those beliefs, that doesn't mean that everyone has to agree it's wrong to show, for example, your bare legs.

What I'm saying is that it's fairly arbitrary which parts of the human body it's deemed acceptable to show and there's no inherent moral reason for anyone to conform to the norm of their particular society - unless non-conformity harms others.

Walking naked through a public park - yes, might shock or harm others, not acceptable in British society. Attending/organising an event which is clearly advertised as being for nudists - no one is going to be shocked - therefore, it's acceptable

My experience of naturism is not a good one, growing up my parents decided we would become naturists, I was 10, sure I made friends within the naturism community, but for me it was like having a dirty secret which I couldn’t talk to school friends about, I was too embarrassed, I had nothing to add when everyone talked about their weekends and if you think that because you are surrounded by families your DC are not going to get touched up by one of the dads then you are wrong, also the couple who sidled in and became family friends, hmmm, I wonder why, you got it, I can feel that bastards moustache as he stuck his tongue in my mouth, I was 12, I made sure I was never alone with him again. Fortunately we moved abroad for a while and when we came back the naturist club had gone bust. I won’t lie there were some good times but it’s the bad times that I’ve seeked counselling for later on in life, no way on this earth would I ever subject my DC to it.

The point I was trying to make is that just because something has been allowed to go on for a long time doesn’t make it ok. I thought it was pretty clear.

It's a movement that grew out of the faux naivete of the 70s. We know better now. Be naked at home if it's that important to you. Otherwise, safeguarding neccessitates clothes.

Your posts are very odd, VinylDetective.

Jimmy Savile was around for most of my childhood, didn’t make what he did ok though did it? I wonder if the few people who tried to report his actions were called Puritans?

What has Jimmy Savile got to do with anything? He wasn't a naturist. He was a paedophile who wore clothes - like most paedophiles.

Comefromaway - I live in Stoke these events have been going on for most of my childhood

Jimmy Savile was around for most of my childhood, didn’t make what he did ok though did it? I wonder if the few people who tried to report his actions were called Puritans?
Some very unsettling opinions on this thread, I’m not sure if it’s naivety, wilful ignorance or something else.

It's all cultural really. Germans would probably laugh at our shock-horror about nudity, while Afghanis would be horrified that we allow our children to be seen in public in what appears to be underwear.

SterFran00

I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. The insight was informative.

If people want to embrace naturism they should be free to do so without allegations of impropriety. No one should be forced to accept 'societal norms' unless by rejecting them they are actively harming others.

If no one ever challenged 'societal norms' nothing would ever change (for the better).

I wonder why we don’t let school staff all work naked around naked kids? What better way to teach children the human body is not shameful.

Oh yeah, cos most parents and staff would want it shutting down.

That's a really odd stance, VinylDetective
Nudity isn't an "alien concept" to most kids, but the majority would be mortified to thrust into the middle of a crowd of naked men. Strange men.
Your post is really quite suspect.

It’s like the difference between sex with and without a condom.

Said no woman, ever.