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Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

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VortexofBloggery · 24/09/2020 12:03

Flagged up by Sammy Woodhouse on Twitter.
mobile.twitter.com/sammywoodhouse1/status/1308822025797013509

Supported by who else but NSPCC.

Adults can buy a single ticket.

To Shut it down, Change petition here:
www.change.org/p/water-world-stop-nude-family-swim-session-for-adults-and-children-of-all-ages-at-water-world?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_24863394_en-GB%3A2&recruiter=1151217419&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=tap_basic_share

Attended by convicted paedophile
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4047602.convicted-brierfield-paedophile-member-naturist-club/

Unbelievable.

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Datun · 26/09/2020 18:53

People defending naturism on this thread, is there any reason why every single person who is at a naturist event isn't DBS checked?

It's such a niche thing. And so obviously open to exploitation, why isn't everyone DBS checked?

Datun · 26/09/2020 18:52

@DarkmilkAddict

It was on holiday with my dad (very authoritarian) and step mum. Dsis and I didn’t see them often and were frightened of them. They took us to these places and it was expected of us to take all our clothes off. Until around age 16.

I felt completely unable to say no. I was so distressed that I sort of dissociated I think, not sure but in any case it led to me feeling I couldn’t say no to boys/men later on, and let them do anything they wanted to me

I’m kind of furious about it now actually. I still never wear anything that exposes my legs or stomach, all these years later

God, that's awful. Quite apart from the whole concept of naturism. That is absolutely abusive. 💐
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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:42

I’ve had lots of counselling about various things but never mentioned this, none of my friends know either. The shame must’ve gone very deep Sad

DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:40

It’s quite cathartic writing about it!

DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:39

It was on holiday with my dad (very authoritarian) and step mum. Dsis and I didn’t see them often and were frightened of them. They took us to these places and it was expected of us to take all our clothes off. Until around age 16.

I felt completely unable to say no. I was so distressed that I sort of dissociated I think, not sure but in any case it led to me feeling I couldn’t say no to boys/men later on, and let them do anything they wanted to me

I’m kind of furious about it now actually. I still never wear anything that exposes my legs or stomach, all these years later

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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:34

You can see practically all of “real” people’s bodies on a normal beach

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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:27

Anyone who’s suspicious of people defending taking children to these places, please believe your instincts

Pelleas · 26/09/2020 18:20

@Handsoffisback

And pelleas more to the point, why do small children need to have the opportunity to look at naked ageing bodies? My children aren’t affected by not being exposed to them. I don’t get the point?
Obviously I can't comment about your individual children.

My point is that many young people only see -

  1. Their own naked body
  2. The scantily clad airbrushed bodies of celebrities, or the naked bodies of pornographic models/actors

In most cases 1 does not match 2, which can lead to lack of confidence, eating disorders, obsession with plastic surgery/cosmetics etc. Also unrealistic expectations in terms of what a sexual partner should look like.

DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:17

Just on the point if “not real naturism”, I was taken to several very well established naturist holiday parks as well as some beaches

Pelleas · 26/09/2020 18:16

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I'm sure there are - what I'm saying is, that's no bad thing!
That was to Handsoff's post about old men, not the post about perverts.
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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:14

Thanks. I remember lying that I had my period in a desperate attempt to be allowed to keep my knickers on

Pelleas · 26/09/2020 18:14

I'm sure there are - what I'm saying is, that's no bad thing!

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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:13

I’m shaking at the memories, and I’m mid 40s now

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DarkmilkAddict · 26/09/2020 18:11

I could write an essay on my experiences with naturism in my childhood but it’s very distressing to get into. I’ll summarise:
Sometimes children can’t say no
My physical/sexual boundaries were screwed
Dsis and I narrowly escaped being raped on one occasion
I beg everyone to please support all naturist locations and events to be adult only
Sad

Pelleas · 26/09/2020 18:09

@Handsoffisback

But what benefit do they have in seeing a wrinkly old man’s penis? If they enjoy being naked, they can do that at home or in the paddling pool in the summer. They don’t need to do it in front of strangers.
It's interesting that you've given the example of a 'wrinkly old man' because that does rather reinforce Ster's point:

People on this thread have mentioned things like the benefits of seeing natural bodies, body positivity and they are also benefits. Seeing body confident people is another one - people with mastectomies, disabilities, operation scars, tattoos etc.

You may counter this by saying that the same would apply to the penis of a fit young man, but we have to ask ourselves why the bodies of the old are the first to leap to mind as being something unpleasant that there can be no value in looking at.

There are different views on the 'youth worship' of modern British culture - personally, it saddens me when I read of young women botoxing themselves at the first sight of a frown-line, of 12 year olds buying anti-wrinkle face creams and so on.

When it comes to bodies, often young people's ideas of the naked body are informed by air-brushed pictures of celebrities, or even pornography - which can lead to body dysmorphia, eating disorders etc. because people have few opportunities to see what real and ageing human bodies look like, in a context free of sexual titillation.

Of course, naturism is not the only 'answer' to this - but it's one way of teaching young people what is normal and realistic in the human body.

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