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Troubled Blood sells almost 65,000 copies in just five days

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zanahoria · 23/09/2020 16:30

amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/23/jk-rowling-thriller-no-1-transphobia-row-troubled-blood-robert-galbraith

A big thank you to everyone who helped promote the book!

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AryaStarkWolf · 29/09/2020 11:21

I certainly bought it as support for JK Rowling, obviously not financial as she doesn't need that but as a way to say no, women will not be cancelled thank you very much!

Milicentbystander72 · 29/09/2020 09:19

I can also recommend the audio book. Amazing reading and character voices/tone.

There's subtle things in the book I feel that critics have not picked up on - there's a small part where a character is explaining how she had a miscarriage in a women's toilet. Harrowing description. However I think it's telling that the character explains how another women helped her as she said similar had happened to her,

I feel this is an example of how women's spaces are extremely intimate and only other women can empathise with a very female experience.

All critics of this book have gone for the non-existent transphobia/cross dressing and missed this.

cathyandclare · 27/09/2020 13:20

Strong recommendation for the audiobook. Robert Glennister narrates it, and he is absolutely brilliant. I think it's one of my all time favourite narrations.

Some of the writing, especially character descriptions and speech, is incredibly well observed and there were sections where I was snorting with laughter. I'm glad it's so long, I don't want it to end!

DurtySarf · 27/09/2020 11:28

@FindTheTruth the Goodreads comments order does seem a bit Hmm.

Good to see the overall rating up to 4.12 though

FindTheTruth · 27/09/2020 10:44

[quote DurtySarf]It looks like Amazon deleted the reviews from people who hadn't read it.

On Goodreads unfortunately, the top review (with nearly 500 likes) is from someone who hasn't read it and is simply smearing JKR.

Perhaps some more of us might like to 'like' some of the reviews from individuals who have actually read the book?

www.goodreads.com/book/show/51807232-troubled-blood[/quote]
The 'top review' according to Goodreads default sort order with 517 likes is by someone who hasn't read the book. 'it's been revealed that the plot to this book is also transphobic'. 1 star

The 'next review' according to Goodreads default sort order with 525 likes is by someone who has read the book. 5 stars

Questions for Goodreads: is it a decision by a human being to put the one star review first? if yes, is it because Goodreads agree with the reviewer? or is it just an algorithm resulting in this? Why are you not deleting reviews by people who haven't read the book?

Thanks @DurtySarf for the suggestion to 'like' some of the reviews. I followed your suggestion and liked reviews by people who had actually read the book and had something interesting to say.

Troubled Blood sells almost 65,000 copies in just five days
NicholasTopliss · 26/09/2020 12:50

A relative's partner was murdered by a man dressed as a woman many years ago. It was a huge story at the time. ( Not UK.)

FindTheTruth · 26/09/2020 12:07

@SirSamuelVimes

DD read me a Biff & Chip book last night. Two different men used women's clothing as a disguise. Two! That must mean the Oxford reading scheme is twice as transphobic as JKR.

Should I alert twitter?

Yes!!! please alert twitter 😂
SirSamuelVimes · 26/09/2020 09:57

DD read me a Biff & Chip book last night. Two different men used women's clothing as a disguise. Two! That must mean the Oxford reading scheme is twice as transphobic as JKR.

Should I alert twitter?

DurtySarf · 26/09/2020 09:28

Watching the Goodreads rating inch up as actual readers share their views. 4.06 last night, 4.08 this morning...

SkaraBrae · 24/09/2020 23:10

I'm surprised to see it repeated so frequently that there's only one reference in the book to a serial killer wearing women's clothing. It's been alluded to about four times so far.

It's mentioned more than once but it is a very minor detail- the 'cross dressing' is very clearly a disguise designed to confuse people.

Nothing to talk about.

Considering the length of the book and its plot, if anyone else had written it, no-one would have picked up on it.

SirSamuelVimes · 24/09/2020 12:31

OMG, does that make FWR Dumbledore's Army (gets carried away....).

We need badges Grin

SunsetBeetch · 24/09/2020 11:47

@SirSamuelVimes

I need the t shirt JKR's wearing in that tweet from the mail article.
Here you go:

wildwomynworkshop.com/store/t-shirts/this-witch-doesnt-burn-feminist-t-shirt/

I love their model. She rocks. Remember her from this meeting (WPUK at UCL)?

Troubled Blood sells almost 65,000 copies in just five days
IloveJKRowling · 24/09/2020 11:45

That article by Nick Cohen is great, but this is the best bit

"Rowling said the moral lesson of the Harry Potter books was “blindingly obvious”. She was dramatising the choice between what is right and what is easy, “because that, that is how tyranny is started, with people being apathetic and taking the easy route and suddenly finding themselves in deep trouble”."

And that sums up the whole trans debate really. Far too many people have taken the easy route without thinking about whether what they were agreeing with would REALLY help trans children or anyone else.

When Harry claims Voldemort has come back and Umbridge and the Ministry condemn him and force him to say he's lying, that's what this is, really. We're all being forced to say TWAW against our wills because we're scared. Doesn't mean we really think it's true.

OMG, does that make FWR Dumbledore's Army (gets carried away....).

PotholeParadise · 24/09/2020 11:44

@SirSamuelVimes

I need the t shirt JKR's wearing in that tweet from the mail article.
The witch one?

wildwomynworkshop.com

While you're there, you'll be officially pissing off exactly the right people.

RoyalCorgi · 24/09/2020 11:28

Reading Troubled Blood at the moment. It's excellent - am loving it.

I'm surprised to see it repeated so frequently that there's only one reference in the book to a serial killer wearing women's clothing. It's been alluded to about four times so far. It's a minor part of the plot, however, and I should make clear that the book isn't about trying to catch the serial killer (who has in fact been caught and is in Broadmoor), it's about trying to solve the disappearance of a particular woman in 1974 whose body has never been found. The serial killer in question is one of a number of possible suspects.

SirSamuelVimes · 24/09/2020 11:17

I need the t shirt JKR's wearing in that tweet from the mail article.

highame · 24/09/2020 11:11

I don't know a thing about JKR as a person, but I do know charities benefit from her wealth. I would think these big sales will bring bonuses for some women's causes like DV

Malahaha · 24/09/2020 11:11

oops! cross-posted! sorry!

Malahaha · 24/09/2020 11:10

The Daily Mail reports on the good sales, and gives an accurate account of the "transphobic" content:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8766559/JK-Rowling-shakes-transgender-row-controversial-new-book-shoots-straight-charts.html

excellent comments as usual.

Malahaha · 24/09/2020 09:58

I think those sales speak a very loud message.
The TRAs aren't winning any fans. People might not be speaking out for one reason or the other, but they are showing their support for JKR through their spending. WIN, I'd say.

CoteDAzur · 24/09/2020 09:29

I just bought my copy. Thanks for the heads up.

risefromyourgrave · 24/09/2020 09:25

[quote CodenameVillanelle]@mum2jakie Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone: MinaLima Edition ]][/quote]
This looks absolutely beautiful, I’ve just pre-ordered it. My kids are a bit old to appreciate it now, (although we read all the HP series when they were younger) but there’s always grandkids to look forward to reading it to!

Malahaha · 24/09/2020 09:01

@SunsetBeetch

Still number one on the Amazon chart and check out the average review score!
The review score on Goodreads is also improving by the day. It started out with 2 or three stars with practically ONLY bad reviews from those who hadn't read it. But now, as the genuine readers give their feedback, the rating is going through the stars -- even with all those one-stars weighing it down. So happy about this! I did read the first one years ago and will re-read it. But I think I'll read this one now and then go back to read the series.

I also bought the Ickabog. I think my 11 year old granddaughter will like it, and then she can pass it on to my 2-year-old other DGD!

PotholeParadise · 24/09/2020 07:52

@sashh

FWRLurcker - I would start with the first book and read in order.

That depends I have no intention of reading my copy.

Grin

I've always wondered how many people simply bought The Satanic Verses with zero intention of reading it, just to make a point. Grin

Foolish, foolish TRAs. It's as if they have no cultural context from pre-2010 when they launch their campaigns. We don't even have to look a bookshop assistant in the eye to buy forbidden literature now. Of course people would buy it in their droves.