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Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan: “Politicians are using trans rights as a bartering ram for something else”.

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RandomGel · 20/09/2020 15:23

More light. In this podcast Joe Rogan and Douglas Murray discuss many issues but there is a great discussion on identity politics.

Quite rightly Douglas Murray describes politicians as using trans rights as a battering ram for something else.

Joe Rogan refers to the TRA mantra “there is no such thing as biological sex” as ridiculous.

It’s heartening to see Abigail Shearer and Debra Soh referenced and praised for taking a stand, living their truth and refusing to go along with the crowd.

It is longer than 2 hours long but it is really is worth a listen. I certainly don’t agree with everything but much sense is spoken particularly around identity politics and the medicalisation of children as being something we will look back on with abject horror. I am so glad that these debates are happening and on such a large platform.

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022828MAN · 20/09/2020 15:45

Yes, a great watch and I've just ordered his book too!

Kantastic · 20/09/2020 15:42

Quite rightly Douglas Murray describes politicians as using trans rights as a battering ram for something else.

Am I recalling it right, or did he never say what "something else" he was referring to? Saying what other people are afraid to say (or can't say for fear of getting sacked/censored) is a big part of his brand.

I can speculate what he meant (not on here, obviously) but I'd like to know if he is seeing what I'm seeing, and what others on this board are seeing. He has a very different perspective.

BovaryX · 20/09/2020 15:36

This is well worth a listen. There is an impassioned speech by Murray about Vaclev Havel's indictment of state enforced slogans which elicited applause from Jo Rogan. There is also a very interesting section on trans around the 1.44 mark, where Jo Rogan discusses the absurdity of those who have had the benefit of 30 years of testosterone entering female martial arts.