Lib Dem’s definition of transphobia

They can see it they don't care.

How they think this will bring them votes when merely filling out the registration form to vote will be a complete non starter let alone getting them down the polling station...

This is where they make a mistake - they say something like 'genuine misunderstandings about trans identity may occur, but if you repeatedly make 'errors' this is intentional and transphobic.' I don't 'misunderstand' trans identity. I simply disagree with the theoretical constructs it's built on. I don't believe there is such a thing as 'gender identity', nor do I believe that sex is assigned at birth. And this guide simply doesn't get that at all. They think that any disagreement is 'transphobia' despite the fact there are a million competing theories about gender and gender identity.

So one example of transphobia they provide is is distinguishing trans people by sex - so, saying that trans women aren't really biological women. This is supposedly bigoted because 'it eradicate's the trans persons gender identity in favour of their biology at birth.' But one person's bigotry is another's common sense. It's not false to distinguish trans people in this way - it's just true. They aren't biological women. And furthermore, this distinction is deep within the English legal system and is protected by the Equality Act. So we see the clash here. Any attempt to refer to trans people's biological sex is transphobia, but that is exactly the distinction we need to have to maintain women's rights.

I have spoken with so many trans people on here and in real life who are very confused by the fact I just don't believe in gender identity, don't believe in gendered souls or lady brains, don't believe sex is a social construct. They have to accept that the resistance they are facing is from people who don't have a postmodernist queer theory outlook on life. The only way you are going to convince me that I have an innate gender identity that somehow 'matches' my 'assigned' sex is to actually give me good reasons to believe it. But I'm afraid at the moment it sounds more like a religion that I have no interest in signing up to.

Substitute 'women' for 'trans':

Misogynistic behaviour may include (i) attempting directly or through advocacy to remove women's rights, (ii) misrepresenting women, (iii) abuse of women, and (iv) systematically excluding women from discussions about issues that directly affect them.”

How come they can't see it?

Just say how you’d run the bloody country. Y’know economics and that? It’s not a high school glee club...

Yet its OK for them to lable us c**

A subset of our own category

I think we’ve come a long way and as polls show most people do not consider themselves transphobic.

What this seems to mean in practice is people will accept someone who looks convincingly of the sex they’ve transitioned to as a man/woman (if target ends had surgery) but don’t buy it if they still look obviously male/female. But most people will still be pretty respectful and the majority would be up in arms over violence or bullying towards a trans person and most people are against trans people being denied access to healthcare, jobs (with sex based exemptions) or housing. How common it is for trans people in the UK to be denied work/healthcare/housing I don’t know but I think they’re fairly safe. Happy to be corrected.

What most members of the public don’t consider transphobic is believing a man can become an actual woman (and vice versa), believing women have rights separate to transwomen (and vice versa) or using the word “woman” to describe those who menstruate.

This will clash with what TRA campaigners want and that’s when people go “hang on...” and it’s a problem that isn’t going to be solved by minor political parties, tampon companies and others on the bandwagon blocking questions and smearing decent people as bigots along side those who would wish harm to trans people. No one wants to be seen as as bad as someone who uses slurs and makes threats just because they don’t adhere to someone else’s belief system. The majority of people are pretty decent and treat others decently but won’t accept they’re in the wrong on this anymore that being forced to say the sun goes around the earth.

Using phrases or language to describe trans people which are designed to suggest that trans people are a separate category of person from the gender they identify as or that their gender identity is not valid. Current examples include referring to a trans woman or non-binary person as a “biological man” or a trans man or non-binary person as a “biological woman”, which eradicates the trans person’s gender identity in favour of their biology at birth.

They have lost the plot.

I wish someone would let us know what rights are being rolled back because they are to able to participate fully in life provided the respect the same rules as everyone else.

What they cant do is access half naked members of the opposite sex without their consent. Is that a right anyone e(se has?

Please someone let us know what rights are in question

I've been "misgendered " or miss-named hundreds of times why is it only a problem when it happens to them?

God if I had a pound for every time my surname was misspelled or mispronounced I'd be a billionaire by now.

Sorry I couldn't read all of that.
Although the message was LOUD AND CLEAR: WOMEN SHUT UP

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