Thank You

Fairly sure I am not targetted though, am a noone totally on here! I clearly upset someone though, not sure how. That they are open though about targetting prominent members, shows how secure they feel in their power/hold over the forum.

Yeah, right after I posted my thanks message..I got a random deletion which..I cannot understand why.

Still prefer this random shot every now and again style deleting, than just deleting everything abut the topic though like many other places do.

I have genuinely no idea though who thought it was a good idea to take reports from people who are not members. That was just..batshit.

Unfortunately the moderation is getting more random and the deletions are increasing.
The external monitors are pulling the strings and gloating on twitter. Certain posters are being stalked.
Appeasement never works.

If it's any encouragement, I put some of the TWAW activist arguments to my dd 13 in as neutral a way as I could. And explained (in as neutral a way as I could), the consequences for women's sport and women's safe spaces. She normally goes out of her way to disagree with me - and she knows I am gender critical (thanks to people on here opening my eyes to the consequences of 'just be kind').
She said "that's mad". To the idea of anyone who's been through male puberty competing against women. And to the idea that someone with a penis could rock up in a women's refuge. Given that she won't go into a public toilet without me or a female pal anyway, the loo thing is a moot point.

Thank you, thank you Mumsnet FWR. I've finally signed up to say this.. the posts from you sharp, articulate, brave and funny women have open my eyes and ignited serious belly fires in our household. I've learned so much.

I would like to say a big thanks to everyone on here, for all the facts, information and down to earth views. As a bloke, I think this is one of the very few places where I can read about the current issues - women's sport, JKR, Glinner, single sex spaces, education etc.

Thanks for sharing the thread and info DialSquare

I am reassured, heartened and thankful that FWR is here. I am not a bigot, I am not a rightwing reactionary and I'm not alone.

Sums it up for me.

Thank you from me too

I'm more of a lurker than a poster but, after being drawn to FWR by the JKR threads, I've been encourage to write to all sorts of people about women's rights. I've also been digging.

It amazes me that people could even imagine there would be no problems with so called self-id.

Adding my thanks too!

😊

I only joined Mumsnet after the JKR "Terfwars" essay. I'd been an occasional lurker before but my exposure to the conversation was largely through twitter, which was (and still is) horrible.
As a millennial, leftwing woman, I've found myself at odds with friends and people I admired with alarming frequency.
I am reassured, heartened and thankful that FWR is here. I am not a bigot, I am not a rightwing reactionary and I'm not alone.

Radicalised by Mumsnet - me too!

Yep thanks everyone. I've learnt a lot on here.

gawd knows where we would be now (looking at some of the other countries with self ID for example).

Can you clarify what you mean by this OP? I thought Ireland was the only place that had self ID and there haven't been any problems? Have I missed something?

Thank you from a long time lurker. You are all amazing

Me too. I've been on mumsnet for ten years, but up until a few years ago I only really read threads in fwr (and felt a bit intellectually inferior ).

The amazing posters who spelled out what was happening completely opened my eyes. Once you see it, you can't unsee it and I'm glad to have been made aware.

This board is great. I have learned so much. Thank you.

Lots of hard work in front of us, but thanks for the rallying cry Dial. Nice to remind ourselves of all the truly intelligent, critical, brave, women who don't have the kudos of titles and fame. They have nevertheless battled on and must now be feeling that boulder going up the hill, is just getting a bit easier to push.

My thanks to you all

I'd like to say thank you too, to all the women here who are doing so much to raise awareness and give support to women.

I only joined mumsnet this year. I used to scroll through the active posts, and every so often would notice threads on trans issues in the feminist section. My thoughts used to be how bigoted such threads were (even though I never actually read them).
One day I noticed a thread with the title "just when you thought JK Rowling couldn't get any better " and curious as to what Harry Potter had to do with feminism I clicked and read. Over the following months I read with horror of what was happening, of the abuse towards JKR, and of cancelling of women who spoke up and so much else that I could not list them all..
I think what struck me most though was how many ordinary poster mentioned that they could not speak of their beliefs(i.e. speaking of reality) for fear of losing their jobs, losing friends and the fear of the abuse they would be subjected to. I couldn't believe this was happening inthe 21st century. It sounded like something from a movie .
I can now say I have been radicalised by mumsnet😂
Thank you to all the women who have fought in the wildernesses for many years. Your numbers are growing.💐

Yeah, thanks to all. I came quite 'late' to this, about 3 years ago maybe now. Like many I came from the 'lets just be kind' angle, and its so hard to even try going back there in my mind, knowing all I know now about it all. Took a while getting used to the very..upfront ( :grin: ) way a lot of mumsnetters are, especially FWR posters, but it was here that opened my eyes totally to the issue and I have appreciated having a corner of the internet where its allowed to be discussed.

I know I have whinged a lot about the restrictions on FWR, but I did understand why HQ did it. But I have always been so so grateful to Justine for letting us speak. Even when it looked to be threatening profits (not sure if it ever actually did affect profits or not though, but they tried and it wld have been easy to throw in the towel then) she stood by us, and stood up for our right to speak, as women, on topics that affect us. In the face of some heavy pressure from some groups too.

for all.

/mushy head off, not really me