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Help fact-check this letter to Liz Truss from 7000+ women

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testing987654321 · 19/09/2020 08:54

This letter has been signed by many women, of all walks of life. I think it's factually wrong in many places, anyone else willing to point out errors?

liztrussopenletter.wordpress.com/?fbclid=IwAR1lLPyNAtAyxI7iJYT6ULNGduWhuaThDncWLwmNDBBpva6_PM2cwjgso-4

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gardenbird48 · 19/09/2020 09:50

I’m not sure I can see anything factually correct in this letter - it’s just telling Liz she’s starting to sound a bit transphobic for doing her job and democracy is rubbish. A bit desperate really.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2020 09:38

Cis gender women. Sums it all up

A made up name

rabbitwoman · 19/09/2020 09:37

'A handful of trans teenagers each year are given puberty blockers, a safe treatment available to trans teens on the NHS since 1989. Multiple scientific studies show that puberty blockers are a life-saving treatment for trans teenagers who want them.'

I mean, this has actually, demonstrably been proven incorrect, hasn't it? NHS changed its advice on puberty blockers very recently, and they are no longer considered harmless or reversable?

Haven't much more than a handful of detransitioners come forward recently? Including Keira Bell whose court case is still ongoing?

Suzie Green, CEO of mermaids, knows this. I am surprised she signed this letter knowing this is so incorrect, and didn't at least try to frame the objections in a different way; but there you go. It's the self assured arrogance of the narcissistic....

Liz truss, however, does know.

I was hoping there would be a change coming. Myself personally, I am much more comfortable supporting Jkr and putting across my own gc arguments than I would have been this time last year.

grafittiartist · 19/09/2020 09:37

Are all those women happy to be labelled "ciswomen"?
I'm not.

testing987654321 · 19/09/2020 09:34

to protect women’s single-sex spaces, trans women must be barred from entering them.

Well yes, otherwise they are not single sex spaces. Transgender people need safe spaces to get changed etc, but places for women and girls are not appropriate for males.

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SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 09:33

Why do they keep doing this???

testing987654321 · 19/09/2020 09:11

That's why it needs a group effort!

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testing987654321 · 19/09/2020 09:09

transphobic hate groups and organisations such as Woman’s Place UK, Transgender Trend and the LGB Alliance.

Not hate groups.
WPUk - defending women's rights
Transgender Trend - concerned children
LGB Alliance - formed because sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same type of thing and male lesbians are not lesbians.

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PearsMorgan · 19/09/2020 09:02

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testing987654321 · 19/09/2020 08:55

I am starting with the "gender marker" on a birth certificate. It's a box called sex, it records biological sex.

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