Page 4 | I've just finished Troubled Blood and there is NO transphobia

AviceCaro · 2020-09-17T12:33:50+00:00

I've just finished it - it's very long and very very good - and definitely no transphobia! One brief mention of someone who might be the murderer might have worn a woman's coat to confuse his victims - it's one page out of 900! It's so not relevant to the plot. It's such a good read, and really disappointing that it's getting so much negative attention.

ginandbearit · 17/09/2020 17:51

A list of killers who enjoyed dressibg as women ...further down in Munroes twitter feed ..this never happens ...

I've just finished Troubled Blood and there is NO transphobia

Mollscroll · 17/09/2020 17:47

I’m feeling better about this whole agenda today. The behaviour of the TRAs towards a beloved and thoughtful woman is plastered all over the media. People are seeing this shit. I am getting traction from people when I mention the behaviour of these ideologues whereas previously people reacted as if I had a weird obsession. Now they see the issue with their own eyes. Plus some previously silent journalists I follow quietly retweeting the Nick Cohen piece or some similar commentary. This is getting sunlight.

DialSquare · 17/09/2020 17:47

A women's coat is any coat that comes with a free gold lame bag.

StandUpStraight · 17/09/2020 17:34

State Media have done a short vid on this, focusing on Prick News and their dangerous proximity to the wrong side of libel and harassment laws.

AbsintheFriends · 17/09/2020 17:12

@AbsintheFriends another way of saying she’s on “the wrong side of history” maybe?

Yeah, maybe that wizened old multi-purpose chestnut. Ironic that Munroe Bergdorf is condemning the work of the most successful writer of our generation but can't even compose a coherent tweet to do it.

Floisme · 17/09/2020 17:07

They rushed to condemn a book they hadn't seen, that hadn't even hit the shops. They can try and spin it as much as they like but they can't walk back from that, ever. It's out there.
If they had any brain cells at all they'd hold up their hands and say, 'yeah I've been a dick'. But then we know they don't have any brain cells because they condemned a book they hadn't seen.

BovaryX · 17/09/2020 16:51

@Datun

I have really enjoyed watching them all make tit ends of themselves though. So many oblivious people have witnessed the nastyness and registered it as what it is

YY.

The reaction is so off the scale batshit, people who would otherwise not give a toss, are suddenly very interested and totally bemused by what an earth she's meant to have done.

I think that the freedom of speech issue, the totalitarian demands, the insistence that people chant simplistic slogans, submit to the new orthodoxy. Sit down. Shut up. The denunciations, the #no debate? This is on explicit display. It has limited support. And its acolytes look like fanatics. There is a pushback against this BS.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/09/2020 16:49

A womans coat is quite obviously a coat without any useful pockets

MinaMurray · 17/09/2020 16:38

@AbsintheFriends another way of saying she’s on “the wrong side of history” maybe?

Datun · 17/09/2020 16:31

I have really enjoyed watching them all make tit ends of themselves though. So many oblivious people have witnessed the nastyness and registered it as what it is

YY.

The reaction is so off the scale batshit, people who would otherwise not give a toss, are suddenly very interested and totally bemused by what an earth she's meant to have done.

AbsintheFriends · 17/09/2020 16:28

Jeez, what does that Munroe Bergdorf tweet even mean??

If transphobia is the future of @jk_rowling's legacy, it's not going to age well..

Whaaaaat?? Can anyone translate?

Winesalot · 17/09/2020 16:25

@ANoTail

I've just read through a rant on Twitter where someone's complaining because, in the book, a man dresses up in a burka to commit a crime. Is that part actually in there? The person on Twitter does not sound as though they've read it so am a bit sceptical.

They may be referring to the book the Silkworm. Not to give away spoilers however the accused killer allegedly ordered one and the witness said a person wearing one left the scene.

gamerchick · 17/09/2020 16:23

@AbsintheFriends

I've just had a quick trawl through twitter to see if any of the loudmouth wokesters who were shouting 'burn the witch' 2 days ago have admitted they were a bit hasty, now it's emerged that the transphobia klaxon was a false alarm.

Crickets.

I have really enjoyed watching them all make tit ends of themselves though. So many oblivious people have witnessed the nastyness and registered it as what it is.

Escapeplanning · 17/09/2020 16:19

mobile.twitter.com/MunroeBergdorf/status/1306275552957997058

Some people won't let a fake news story go to waste.

AbsintheFriends · 17/09/2020 16:09

I've just had a quick trawl through twitter to see if any of the loudmouth wokesters who were shouting 'burn the witch' 2 days ago have admitted they were a bit hasty, now it's emerged that the transphobia klaxon was a false alarm.

Crickets.

Dreeple · 17/09/2020 15:50

If you check the label, it says “Coat: Adult Human Female for the Use of.”

That’s a women’s coat.

BovaryX · 17/09/2020 15:48

The other lesson from this is that authors are clearly expected to operate a rigid self editing to ensure that none of their fictional characters offend anyone inclined to create a Twitter Tsunami. Or does this policy only apply to JKR?

BovaryX · 17/09/2020 15:45

@DeRigueurMortis

It's a bit of a bugger when modern technology can prove someone's talking shite with a 10 second search

But it's an interesting tactic. Accuse JKR of a full house of 'phobia.' None of her critics can read a 900 word article. Let alone a 900 page book. They believe whatever they are told on Twitter. Facts or indeed external reality don't matter. When you are Permanently Outraged, you don't substantiate. You just regurgitate.

Scout2016 · 17/09/2020 15:45

So not even a woman's wig then, just "a wig" and a woman's coat? I understand the arguement that trans people shouldn't be stigmatised but this isn't even a trans person or a transvestite. They're not exactly Buffalo Bill are they?

ANoTail · 17/09/2020 15:44

Ah, thank you @DeRigueurMortis @EdgeOfACoin

MichelleofzeResistance · 17/09/2020 15:43

India Willoughby said on a GMB interview a while back: some activists are systematically training the world to avoid anything even remotely or distantly possibly to do with trans, especially in media forms, because it so often unleashes this kind of unreasonable and extreme behaviour. Which in turn does trans people no good. Willoughby commented that they had lost work because of potential employers increasingly being avoidant of getting into a situation that may trigger this behaviour.

Neolara · 17/09/2020 15:41

Piers Morgan and Susanah someone did a very funny interview yesterday on their breakfast show with someone claiming the book was transphobic. It was linked to on another thread. Went something like this:

Activist: so obviously the book and JKR is massively transphobic because there is a baddie who dresses is woman's clothes. And so everyone must stop buying JKR's books.
Susanah: but surely if the character just dresses as a woman, that makes them a transvestite not trans, so why is it transphobic if it doesn't mention trans people at all?
Activist: because it just does.
Susanah & PM: ?!??!!!??
PM: so have you actually read the book then?
Activist: um, no.
PM: then how on earth can you say what it is or isn't?
Activist: because I'm right!
Other guests: try not to snigger at activist's missing logic but are not terribly successful.

Was absolutely bonkers.

EdgeOfACoin · 17/09/2020 15:41

@ANoTail

I've just read through a rant on Twitter where someone's complaining because, in the book, a man dresses up in a burka to commit a crime. Is that part actually in there? The person on Twitter does not sound as though they've read it so am a bit sceptical.

I think that might have been in The Silkworm, the second book in the series. There was a very brief storyline about a person disguised in a burkha.

There really was a trans character in The Silkworm. However, by the end I thought they were portrayed fairly sympathetically and certainly received no harder/easier treatment than the other characters in the novel.

Haven't got Troubled Blood yet. Need to read books 3 and 4 first.

DeRigueurMortis · 17/09/2020 15:36

It's a bit of a bugger when modern technology can prove someone's talking shite with a 10 second search

DeRigueurMortis · 17/09/2020 15:34

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