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Independent thought by women must be punished

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 17/09/2020 09:39

Margaret Court, one of the most successful woman tennis players of all time, may have her name removed from a stadium, because of her views on same sex marriage and trans athletes link. And Andy Murray is all for it Hmm

I agree with Court on trans athletes; I totally disagree with her on same sex marriage, but she is entitled to hold her views and to express them. She isn't, I think, a particularly pleasant person but - guess what? Most elite athletes are arseholes, because they only succeed though ruthless focus on their own goals, and everyone else is pushed aside. But it's only women who are punished for this - or for wrong think.

All over the world, sporting venues are named after men, many of whom have done far worse than hold views that are now unpopular. How many venues will be named after Kobe Bryant, self-confessed rapist, for example? Most male sports have a huge homophobia problem. What are we doing about that? Very little.

But one thing named after a woman? That cannot stand. And an uppity woman who is no longer young and pretty? Even worse. She must be punished Angry

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Greencoatblue · 17/09/2020 11:36

The bar of what women have to do to get cancelled is set at ankle level. For men, it's about 7 feet high.

100% agree. May I steal this quote for use elsewhere MissLucy?

Freespeecher · 17/09/2020 11:26

Think this is one of the reasons why the media have been desperate for Serena Williams to win one more Grand Slam and thus draw level with Court.

KayakingOnDown · 17/09/2020 10:53

The bar of what women have to do to get cancelled is set at ankle level. For men, it's about 7 feet high.

I completely agree.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 17/09/2020 10:44

@BigFatLiar

Don't think it's really a 'woman' thing though. I suspect it's what she's talked about that has caused the issue and a man expressing similar views would also be in trouble with those who monitor what's pc to say. I suspect the 'man' thing with it is most men wouldn't say anything. People who express un-pc views on trans or gay matters are in trouble irrespective of their sex (or is that gender)
I don't agree. Where is there an example of a man getting the same level of grief as a woman for these sorts of views? Twitter might object to a man saying similar, but there would be nothing like the level of hatred that women get.

Men do get cancelled, but only for much greater 'sins' than this. Different industry, I know, but Roman Polanski still has many defenders, and is feted by much of the film industry, despite having raped and sodomised a minor, for example.

The bar of what women have to do to get cancelled is set at ankle level. For men, it's about 7 feet high.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 17/09/2020 10:40

Margaret Court is a great example of nominative determinism.

BigFatLiar · 17/09/2020 10:36

Don't think it's really a 'woman' thing though. I suspect it's what she's talked about that has caused the issue and a man expressing similar views would also be in trouble with those who monitor what's pc to say. I suspect the 'man' thing with it is most men wouldn't say anything. People who express un-pc views on trans or gay matters are in trouble irrespective of their sex (or is that gender)

KayakingOnDown · 17/09/2020 10:31

Cancel culture will cancel us all - absolutely.

George Orwell knew this.

Annasgirl · 17/09/2020 10:27

Yes, I agree, cancel culture will cancel us all in the end - we are just at the sharp end, being women of a certain age.

KayakingOnDown · 17/09/2020 10:25

I was going to post a thread on this.

Seriously. What is the world coming to when women (and it always seems to be women) should be 'cancelled' (erased) for holding opinions?