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Irish women, have you seen this?

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SecondRow · 17/09/2020 08:23

The HSE removed the word "woman" from their CERVICAL screening pages Angry
I stumbled across this tweet
twitter.com/Salwicklow/status/1305967737563422720?s=20

politely asking them to put woman back in, alongside trans men and trans women, who both get their own special mentions, but they have brushed off the woman who made the original request and are no longer replying.

Here's the HSE pages
www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/cervical-screening/when-you-should-have-cervical-screening/who-should-have-cervical-screening.html

And here's Aoife Martin - no cervix skin in the game Hmm inviting followers to mock women for wanting the 99.9% of people who need cervical screening to be named as such by a health service that already has some serious catching up to do before women can believe it has their best interests at heart.

twitter.com/aoifemrtn/status/1306339571790159872?s=20

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OnlyWomenAreWomen · 20/09/2020 11:29

@OnlyWomenAreWomen

Thanks. Letters in the Irish Times about this at the moment. Also was the main topic on RTE radio Liveline on 17/09. TENI were on the show lying about their stance. The “have your say” HSE link is useful. Please everyone use it!
Apologies. Hadn’t read through the thread before I posted this. Just joined the site and jumped straight in prematurely 😁😱
OnlyWomenAreWomen · 20/09/2020 11:26

At the end of the stand.ie article

“Next time you’re at a meeting, or an event, look around the room to see who’s there, and see who isn’t.”

Yup. 🤩

OnlyWomenAreWomen · 20/09/2020 11:21

@irishfeminist

Oh and a drag act. Because nothing says "feminist" like a drag act.
Womanface 😡
OnlyWomenAreWomen · 20/09/2020 11:20

Ireland will be congratulating itself on how progressive it is now that Britain has stopped self ID. Fact is more people are actually thinking in the UK. Ireland is simply playing out its centuries old misogyny under the thin veil of wokeness. It’s all about the men. No change here.

OnlyWomenAreWomen · 20/09/2020 11:14

Thanks. Letters in the Irish Times about this at the moment. Also was the main topic on RTE radio Liveline on 17/09. TENI were on the show lying about their stance. The “have your say” HSE link is useful. Please everyone use it!

irishfeminist · 20/09/2020 11:03

Oh and a drag act. Because nothing says "feminist" like a drag act.

irishfeminist · 20/09/2020 10:57

NWCI organise Femfest for girls/young women aged between 16 and 22 - they have had trans people (I'll be deleted if I say what I want to say but let's say they are not biologically female) every year now. Last year's event featured someone (scroll down to the last paragraph) who stated publicly that "T**Fs .....should be smashed and terrified" and launched a campaign of harassment against a woman who spoke out against this violent language. This was all reported to the NWCI but no response. Let's keep it in people's memories.

www.stand.ie/femfest2019/

Cupoftea1234 · 20/09/2020 10:50

*NWCI

Cupoftea1234 · 20/09/2020 10:43

That's great to hear The thing is that a year ago if I heard that about the TW on the MWCI I would have thought how nice that was. Now it bloody well pisses me off.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 20/09/2020 10:17

PMK

irishfeminist · 20/09/2020 10:11

Yes I think so. I've had a couple of people I know mention the Joe Duffy episode and say "I remember now, you've been going on about this for a while but now I get it!"

Cupoftea1234 · 20/09/2020 09:47

@irishfeminist

Oh the irony and not off-topic at all. The NWCI has TENI on their board, they linked to a ridiculous ignorant piece on JK Rowling on their Facebook page, they have given a platform to misogynistic males who make violent threats to women under the trans umbrella. They have never once engaged with the violence and misogyny of the TRA movement. They have no credibility whatsoever.
Yes, I think this is what is so depressing. But I think more and more women are having their eyes opened.
Cupoftea1234 · 20/09/2020 09:45

Thanks Annasgirl. I hadn't seen that interview.

irishfeminist · 20/09/2020 09:32

Oh the irony and not off-topic at all. The NWCI has TENI on their board, they linked to a ridiculous ignorant piece on JK Rowling on their Facebook page, they have given a platform to misogynistic males who make violent threats to women under the trans umbrella. They have never once engaged with the violence and misogyny of the TRA movement. They have no credibility whatsoever.

Annasgirl · 20/09/2020 09:30

And depressing comments section which proves Laura’s point. Although @Cupoftea1234, you will see from Laura’s interview on here last week that she is fully on board with the TRA point of view.

Cupoftea1234 · 20/09/2020 07:24

Off topic
jrnl.ie/5208670
Interesting article in journal.ie today.

Annasgirl · 19/09/2020 21:04

Yes @MotherForkinShirtBalls but there were many women involved in Repeal for many years who jumped straight into the trans rights movement- amazing how quickly they forgot biology

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 19/09/2020 19:53

I think Róisín is onside butt keeping quiet. She hasn't said a thing that I've seen. She was very public about her abortion experience during repeal and she had an excellent piece on periods in the IT about 6 weeks ago. She knows biology.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 19/09/2020 19:49

Earl, you can leave anonymous feedback on the hse website. If you go to the cervical screening page, there's a feedback tab and a form pops up. I put all my comments in the free text box at the bottom.

GrainneMhaol · 19/09/2020 17:30

Kitty Holland has posted nonsense about "terfs" in the recent past.

OchonAgusOchonO · 19/09/2020 17:29

@EarlofEggMcMuffin

The only thing stopping me from writing a complaint to the HSE is that the form asks for name and address.

There is also an email address. If you wanted to ensure it's not associated with you, just set up a new Gmail account.

I used my Gmail to send it as I didn't want to fill in all the detail on the form.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 19/09/2020 16:42

The only thing stopping me from writing a complaint to the HSE is that the form asks for name and address.

I am self-employed in a health care related field.

If the mob comes for me, I am scared of the ramifications for my business...particularly in the peri-Covid climate. No permanent pensionable posts here.

But, this is so akin to mob mentality that my conscience is shouting at me to stand up and be counted. Ooooof.

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SecondRow · 19/09/2020 16:30

Well Annasgirl I'm glad it's in the Irish Times because they can't pretend not to have known about it now. But let's not hold our breath eh? Hmm

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Annasgirl · 19/09/2020 15:49

Oh, Jean Cross - I want to be your best friend. Such a well written letter - I wonder if Jennifer O'Connell or Roisin Ingle will take up the issue Hmm. I don't really wonder - they won't.

irishfeminist · 19/09/2020 12:04

"Wiserolder

True, but have time for Kitty Holland for suing John Waters. How did that pan out. Can't remember. 3/4s of what I read, I end up thinking ''have you looked in to this at all''."

I don't know how the suing panned out. I'm no fan of Waters (I'm aware he sued RTE too) but I'm a big fan of free speech and there's far too much defamation litigation in Ireland. It just smacks of weak arguments and "I can't do my job as a journalist effectively enough so I'm going to tell on you".