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Brilliant debate on GMB about #RIPJKRowling

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Destinysdaughter · 16/09/2020 08:44

Just watched it, it featured Benjamin Butterworth, George Galloway and Rose of Dawn. BB got his arse handed to him by Piers and Rose was brilliant! Well worth a watch! It was on at 8.15 so you can watch it in an hours time if you're at home. Also Twitter reactions were v positive, with pp wanting to buy the book as a result!

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ahagwearsapointybonnet · 16/09/2020 12:42

I enjoyed that too, especially Rose laughing and BB squirming near the end Grin

PhoebeSnow · 16/09/2020 12:41

It was excellent, Rose was great, well done to her, George Galloway was quite funny with his comments, and wee Ben was well and truly shown up !

Berthatydfil · 16/09/2020 12:40

mobile.twitter.com/rose_of_dawn/status/1306166452039409665

Rose has posted the full clip on her Twitter

Mammatino · 16/09/2020 12:34

He hadn’t read the book. He couldn’t answer why that particular book was transphobic because he hadn’t read it. Imagine going on tv to denounce a book you hadn’t even bothered to read. I wonder if any of him and his vile little group of nasties has ever bothered to read JKR’s essays? That might be why they can never ever provide a single transphobic quote. It was fantastic, I believe I may have let out a few whoops at certain points.

LizzieSiddal · 16/09/2020 12:33

I wonder if the interviewers thought Rose was going to have a go at JK, as they kept calling them a “trans activist” and didn’t say anything after Rose’s excellent contribution.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/09/2020 12:27

At one point Butterworth looked like a recalcitrant 8 year old !

If there any evidence he's ever behaved like a mature adult, maybe 'Benjamin button' fits?

NotBadConsidering · 16/09/2020 12:20

@SunsetBeetch

And I haven't seen so much bluster and indignant spluttering from a man wearing glasses since Posie owned AdeyBabey on Sky News.
And isn’t it similar? Two men who aren’t trans ranting about women in the name of trans rights. As Gina Carano said the other day “they need to find less abusive representation”.
frogswimming · 16/09/2020 12:19

Hilarious when George Galloway calls him Benjamin button Grin

SunsetBeetch · 16/09/2020 12:14

And I haven't seen so much bluster and indignant spluttering from a man wearing glasses since Posie owned AdeyBabey on Sky News.

Cuntysnark · 16/09/2020 12:13

That was refreshing! Rose laughing was a tonic.

SunsetBeetch · 16/09/2020 12:12

Rose was fab.

I actually laughed a lot at this. Piers was so funny.

yellowgusset · 16/09/2020 12:11

Unfortunate that Piers Morgan is so unbearable even when making a good point... So much interrupting and monologuing. How is he an interviewer??

SkaraBrae · 16/09/2020 12:05

It's always unnerving when both Piers Morgan and George Galloway sound reasonable and sensible...

littlbrowndog · 16/09/2020 12:05

Rosecwas good. I liked her trying not to burst out laughing at butterworth

littlbrowndog · 16/09/2020 12:04

Don’t call me cis Morgan 💪

I agree butterworth should have been called out for his slurring JKR

He never even read the book yet he was telling everyone not to buy the book

That makes total sense and really made his argument. 😂😂😂

chunkyrun · 16/09/2020 12:04

I can't believe I've reached a point in my life where I'm cheering piers Morgan on 😆

chunkyrun · 16/09/2020 12:00

What a breath of fresh air! I've stayed off Twitter it's just toxic. World of its own

DeliciouslyFemale · 16/09/2020 11:59

What was a shame was that RoseofDawn was given so little time! Rose is very articulate and frankly, more of that is needed in these discussions. I enjoy listening to Rose's videos, even if I don't agree wholly with some, the videos are usually informative. Much more calm and logical on subjects than the IW. So, I hope Piers will have more Rose less IW in the future.

I don’t think Rose of Dawn needed to say any more, than they did, because they kept it succinct, whereas it was a joy to listen to that rambling buffoon Ben Button, waffling on and repeating the nonsense, even when it was pointed out to him that he was wrong. 🤣 This has put me in great form.

FloatOn · 16/09/2020 11:58

I watched this on +1 after seeing tweets about it, BB is like some weird OJ/Harrop character.

What is happening in the world when I find myself agreeing with Piers Morgan and bloody George Galloway!

SunsetBeetch · 16/09/2020 11:56

Now on YouTube. BB made to look like an utter prat. Glorious.

Peaseblossom22 · 16/09/2020 11:55

At one point Butterworth looked like a recalcitrant 8 year old ! I am currently listening to the book in audible but , and I feel sad about this , I will not be adding it to my Good Reads because I don’t want any flack .

BaronessWrongCrowd · 16/09/2020 11:53

That's the one @TheShoesa Grin

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/09/2020 11:49

That was glorious! (And I love Rose of Dawn's accent). Benjamin Button was very odd to watch - I can't believe how like Harrop he is - it was very disconcerting

DialSquare · 16/09/2020 11:49

I thoroughly enjoyed that! Benjamin Button!

NotBadConsidering · 16/09/2020 11:47

The full clip is a thing of beauty. George Galloway and Rose of Dawn both excellent.

George is also right about controlling the narrative arc of fiction, something Lionel Shriver has been vehemently against and with whom I agree.