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Brilliant debate on GMB about #RIPJKRowling

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Destinysdaughter · 16/09/2020 08:44

Just watched it, it featured Benjamin Butterworth, George Galloway and Rose of Dawn. BB got his arse handed to him by Piers and Rose was brilliant! Well worth a watch! It was on at 8.15 so you can watch it in an hours time if you're at home. Also Twitter reactions were v positive, with pp wanting to buy the book as a result!

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SunsetBeetch · 20/09/2020 11:08

Errol Grin

DialSquare · 19/09/2020 23:20

@ErrolTheDragon

Maybe he got roses from JK too

I'd be tempted to send him buttons, but JKR has too much grace and style for that.

How about these?
Brilliant debate on GMB about #RIPJKRowling
Cailleach1 · 19/09/2020 22:58

Funny in that video, when Blaire White calls Benjamin Butterworth 'a transactivist, a random regular white dude'. Especially when he allegedly seems to have 'identified' as black at some stage. Kinda meta!

Benjamin Butterworth, who once identified as black to take a person of colour delegate space at an NUS conference .

Gosh, I couldn't imagine myself take someone's place to which I have no entitlement in the first place. I'd feel like a right fu*cker.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/09/2020 22:28

Maybe he got roses from JK too

I'd be tempted to send him buttons, but JKR has too much grace and style for that.

SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 22:19

[quote DidoLamenting]Benjamin gets a shout out from Blaire White.

[/quote] Blaire's face in the thumbnail says it all Grin
DidoLamenting · 19/09/2020 20:38

Benjamin gets a shout out from Blaire White.

SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 19:58

@gardenbird48

Could he be a gc plant - DEEP under cover?? Atoning for his sheer awfulness in identifying as a black person to access an event... anything seems to be possible in 2020.
Maybe he got roses from JK too Grin
SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 19:54

[quote yourhairiswinterfire]JKR has sent Rose Of Dawn a beautiful bunch of roses 😊

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1307369923212128256[/quote]
Wow how lovely of her!

gardenbird48 · 19/09/2020 19:27

Could he be a gc plant - DEEP under cover?? Atoning for his sheer awfulness in identifying as a black person to access an event... anything seems to be possible in 2020.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2020 19:25

She is pure class

And I have never heard her say go suck my lady dick either

Pure class

CaveMum · 19/09/2020 19:19

[quote yourhairiswinterfire]JKR has sent Rose Of Dawn a beautiful bunch of roses 😊

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1307369923212128256[/quote]
Class, through and through.

CivilCervix · 19/09/2020 19:00

[quote yourhairiswinterfire]JKR has sent Rose Of Dawn a beautiful bunch of roses 😊

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1307369923212128256[/quote]
JKR is a 👑

FloralBunting · 19/09/2020 18:56

[quote yourhairiswinterfire]JKR has sent Rose Of Dawn a beautiful bunch of roses 😊

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1307369923212128256[/quote]
That is sheer class.

yourhairiswinterfire · 19/09/2020 18:47

JKR has sent Rose Of Dawn a beautiful bunch of roses 😊

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1307369923212128256

SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 15:02

Don't be broken! Benjamin Butterworth is the best thing to have happened to GC feminism this week.

Well it broke my irony meter, at least.

BatShite · 19/09/2020 13:44

Don't be broken! Benjamin Butterworth is the best thing to have happened to GC feminism this week.

He is certainly a gift to GCs. Along the lines of Harrop and McKinnon. Not quite at Yaniv levels yet though, but there is time!

CivilCervix · 19/09/2020 13:40

@SoManyActivities

He's just pulling words out of thin air. Now I see how PinkNews gets its 'stories'. They just make them up. Amazing, really.

They literally do make stuff up. My absolute favourite is this article saying that Mumsnetters 'threaten drag queen with crucifixion'. When what was actually said was that if anyone did what this drag queen had done in any other arena 'they would be crucified'.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/23/drag-queen-story-hour-uk-aida-h-dee-sab-samuel-leeds-city-council-sarah-field-mumsnet/

I literally couldn't believe it at the time! The whole article is absolutely ridiculous, but the 'threatened with crucifixion' bit is just Shock

And Owen Jones, who claims to be a serious journalist, retweets Pink News on a fairly regular basis. Bizarre...

The article is actually a rather useful instruction guide on effective protest
SunsetBeetch · 19/09/2020 13:40

More good news:

twitter.com/thebookseller/status/1306540903541010432?s=20

""Troubled Blood, the new book from Robert Galbraith, has shifted more copies in a day than Lethal White sold in its first week, according to publisher
@LittleBrownUK
. See more here: bit.ly/2HavAdJ (£) "

Brilliant debate on GMB about #RIPJKRowling
ArabellaScott · 19/09/2020 13:29

'Mumsnetters 'threaten drag queen with crucifixion'.'

Crikey. It's a wonder we've not all been arrested.

[runs around touching wood]

DeaconBoo · 19/09/2020 13:28

@SoManyActivities

He's just pulling words out of thin air. Now I see how PinkNews gets its 'stories'. They just make them up. Amazing, really.

They literally do make stuff up. My absolute favourite is this article saying that Mumsnetters 'threaten drag queen with crucifixion'. When what was actually said was that if anyone did what this drag queen had done in any other arena 'they would be crucified'.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/23/drag-queen-story-hour-uk-aida-h-dee-sab-samuel-leeds-city-council-sarah-field-mumsnet/

I literally couldn't believe it at the time! The whole article is absolutely ridiculous, but the 'threatened with crucifixion' bit is just Shock

And Owen Jones, who claims to be a serious journalist, retweets Pink News on a fairly regular basis. Bizarre...

Thanks for the reminder about this! I'd forgotten!
ArabellaScott · 19/09/2020 13:22

NoDebate was a deliberate strategy, because any searching questions expose not only the misogyny, but the lack of consistency, logic and evidence.

Exactly. Luckily for us, BB hasn't had that memo and is just delighted to be centre stage. So I wish him well in his burgeoning career as the new TRA spokesperson!

MichelleofzeResistance · 19/09/2020 10:58

whether JK Rowling has ever been transphobic and the lack of acknowledgement that all her comments have been about supporting women.

But in the ideology of this political lobby, supporting women is perceived as transphobic. That's the bottom line in plain English. That is what people need to understand to make an informed choice about what this lobby is asking for when they say 'rights'. This is not a live and let live situation. The 'rights' being requested are the removal of sex based rights for all females.

moptophairshop · 19/09/2020 10:43

BB's contributions and the TRAs sharing the hashtag this week has led to two separate conversations with people I never thought I'd talk to about my GC views. One hadn't heard of self-id and thought it was a ridiculous idea. I suggested to both that they do what the overwhelming majority of opposers hadn't done and read JKR's essay & letter. One came back with the response "ShockShockShock Is that it?? Have I missed something else?" I just suggested if she had a strong stomach to search for the threats and abuse she received for them.

Before this week I didn't think I'd be able to comfortably say all this. The positive effects of sunlight.

CivilCervix · 19/09/2020 10:19

NoDebate was a deliberate strategy, because any searching questions expose not only the misogyny, but the lack of consistency, logic and evidence.

I think his interventions will be very useful from the daylight perspective

Datun · 19/09/2020 10:14

*barely able even