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My daughter has started a relationship with a boy who thinks he is a girl, and my dad is calling herself a lesbian

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MothsAreSadButterflies · 15/09/2020 22:24

I can't talk to anyone about this . I feel like if I try to talk to my 17 yr daughter I will get schooled on my bigotry.

The transgirl looks and sounds like an 19yr old boy but with long hair, wearing 'girls' clothes.

I put that in quote marks because what does that mean, what are girl clothes? Who cares what people wear, pink is not for girls and blue for boys...hair should not be gendered. Be a boy who is androgynous or feminine ...I don't care. I fought all my life to get equality and to get away from the idea men and women have different minds, or stereotypical clothes or roles...now it seems someone can 'feel' like a girl, I mean what does that mean!? I'm so confused and upset. Saying you ARE a girl and now my daughter thinks and declares you are too and you are lesbians. If she was a lesbian I'm so fine with that. If he was a boy who didn't believe in gender stereotypes and wore make up and dresses I'm fine with that.. it's just this strangeness. They are not lesbians, it's an insult to real lesbians. He has a penis. She could get pregnant. How could two lesbians do that. I'm struggling to get past the idea that the biology is to be ignored.
Saying you are a woman is enough. But for all of our existence women have not been able to access any privilege. Saying we are men still wouldn't privilege us as transmen are not seen as equal to biological men.
And I feel sorry for this transgirl. I feel they must have deep-rooted issues to declare themselves a woman.

But they are not a woman and to say they are lesbians galls me.
It feels like double speak.

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CrockMonster · 15/09/2020 22:59

Oh and you don’t sound hateful. You sound like a concerned mother and I’d be feeling exactly the same I’d imagine.

CrockMonster · 15/09/2020 22:58

That sounds so tough. All I can say is try to be supportive, because the more you fight with her over it the less likely she is to be open about anything when it comes to her relationship with this guy. Ask questions and show an interest, maybe even get to know him better so you can get an idea of his personality too. The last thing you want is for her to completely close off from you, so kill them with kindness in a way. Chances are at 17, this won’t be the person she ends up spending her life with and hopefully it’ll fizzle out at some point.

MothsAreSadButterflies · 15/09/2020 22:57

It's true that this is probably the only thing she could do that would upset us.

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Thehogfatherstolemycurry · 15/09/2020 22:52

I agree with Gncq there's not much for youths to rebel against these days, it's for shock tactics.
My dd 12 has decided she's bicurious , crack on love, was not the response she was after I think 😂

MothsAreSadButterflies · 15/09/2020 22:51

But her first sexual relationship is so messed up.

I know I should just be glad they seem very besotted with each other but I just feel angry and sad. I'm trying really hard to step back and understand but I feel so much anger on behalf of women.. I'm not explaining myself very well. I sound hateful.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 15/09/2020 22:45

I feel for you, OP. It's sad to see kids embracing the restrictive old stereotypes we were so proud to overthrow. Luckily your DD doesn't seem to be in danger -- whether she turns out to be gay or straight, she's not trying to stop being female.

Thelnebriati · 15/09/2020 22:45

Its not acceptable to pretend you are Black, I dont see why they think this is ok. 'Lesbian' is a protected characteristic based on sex, and they are appropriating the identity of an oppressed group.

SirVixofVixHall · 15/09/2020 22:39

Show her the Magdalen Berns video on youtube where she discusses Alex Drummond -

MothsAreSadButterflies · 15/09/2020 22:36

Do you think it's just a rebellious thing?

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Gncq · 15/09/2020 22:31

They're 17.
It's all the rage.

There's basically no way to be shocking cool and edgy for them because their parents stole tattoos, tongue piercings, goth, grunge, bulemia/anorexia and music festivals.

They'll grow out of it.

MothsAreSadButterflies · 15/09/2020 22:25

Sorry it should say DD is calling herself a lesbian

My dad doesn't know thank god.

Confused
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