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"AFAB Transwoman"

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 01:03

I've just come across an 'assigned female at birth transwoman' (on twitter). I don't even know why I'm starting this thread apart from trying to get my head around my absolute disbelief that this can even be a thing. So they're female but identifying as a male that wants to be female? What?

I did a bit of googling and found this thread and it's just boggled my mind even more

forum.emptyclosets.com/index.php?threads/does-anyone-identify-as-an-afab-transwoman.420822/

I think it might be time for bed...

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Doyoumind · 16/09/2020 12:43

Last year there was a thread on twitter about female presenting trans boys celebrating themselves. These were all teenage females who had decided they were trans but wanted to present in a female way. I just found it incredibly depressing.

JaneAustenWouldHateThis · 16/09/2020 11:46
Grin
CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 16/09/2020 10:46

@JaneAustenWouldHateThis

No, google is my annoying friend.
It's a type of sugar! There, did it for you .
JaneAustenWouldHateThis · 16/09/2020 09:47

No, google is my annoying friend.

Gncq · 15/09/2020 22:38

*Caster Semenya is not intersex"
Hmm

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 22:38

Someone even referenced 'blackface' as a comparison to the AFAB OP claiming the label 'trans'.

I've just seen that Shock "I'm trying to wrap my head around this and keep an open mind, but the only thing I can think is "this is what afro-americans must feel when they encounter somebody wearing blackface.""

Judging by the words used and the user's profile, I think it's safe to assume that white male priviledge was responsible for that post.

How fucking insulting to use blackface ... but not drag queens as an example??

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FireUnderTheHand · 15/09/2020 20:40

*should have said natal woman that does not identify as a man but identifies as a woman that identifies as a man that identifies as a woman

Whew! My fingers had problems typing that - like my brain was sending signals they did not want to obey.

FireUnderTheHand · 15/09/2020 20:37

I read the whole thread and the cries of appropriation came from TW with profiles that say (female trans*) but it doesn't really matter IMO.

Some of the posters are encouraging others to 'be kind' and others are pissed that their trans and/or TW 'label' is being used by a natal woman. Ah the cognitive dissonance and irony is palpable - not surprising in the slightest but incredibly amusing and saddening to see the lack of self-awareness the posters have.

Someone even referenced 'blackface' as a comparison to the AFAB OP claiming the label 'trans'. And that (maybe another poster) justified TW as being the same as black women - most posting appear to be not only misogynistic but also racist twits.

The conversation is so nonsensical and cyclical that I guiltily laughed out loud reading the thread - it reads like a poorly written script of a group discussion for an episode of Black Mirror.

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 20:22

@AnyOldPrion

"You are a dysphoric woman, but calling yourself a trans woman is appropriating an experience you do not have, and is misrepresenting what it means to be a trans woman"

Does seem to be the height of irony, but it’s possible this particular person doesn’t claim to be a woman.

I'm not sure that even matters. It's the TRA argument - we'll do what we like to you but if you do it to us, you are wrong.
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AnyOldPrion · 15/09/2020 13:48

"You are a dysphoric woman, but calling yourself a trans woman is appropriating an experience you do not have, and is misrepresenting what it means to be a trans woman"

Does seem to be the height of irony, but it’s possible this particular person doesn’t claim to be a woman.

LockdownLump · 15/09/2020 13:43

Aaaand....... I think my brain has finally exploded

Same 🤯🤯🤯

Antibles · 15/09/2020 13:40

I reckon it's a parody but anyway, some days I think humans really wouldn't be any worse off without speech.

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 15/09/2020 13:22

@JaneAustenWouldHateThis

Placemarking to discover what Caster is.
Google is your friend
OldQueen1969 · 15/09/2020 13:03

Aaaand....... I think my brain has finally exploded.

JaneAustenWouldHateThis · 15/09/2020 12:03

@FatGirlShrinking

It's interesting that some of the responses on that thread are saying how offensive it is that the OP is appropriating the identity of a trans woman without the lived experience of being one but fail to recognise or accept that men appropriating the identity of a woman without the lived experience may also be seen as offensive.

No self awareness and not the sharpest tool in the box is what I'm taking from that.

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 11:30

@BriocheForBreakfast

The irony of this poster

"You are a dysphoric woman, but calling yourself a trans woman is appropriating an experience you do not have, and is misrepresenting what it means to be a trans woman"

It's brilliant isn't it. They're SO affronted by the concept and yet the irony is completely lost on them...
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JaneAustenWouldHateThis · 15/09/2020 10:45

Ah, thank you endof

JaneAustenWouldHateThis · 15/09/2020 10:44

Placemarking to discover what Caster is.

BriocheForBreakfast · 15/09/2020 10:42

The irony of this poster

"You are a dysphoric woman, but calling yourself a trans woman is appropriating an experience you do not have, and is misrepresenting what it means to be a trans woman"

endofthelinefinally · 15/09/2020 09:44

There is a huge thread explaining the fact that Caster Semenya is male, very near the top of this feminist board. Too much information to reproduce on this thread and would be a derailment anyway. But it is a very good, educational thread so worth reading.

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 09:43

@endofthelinefinally

Caster Semenya is not intersex.
Wikipedia says she is (although I'm aware anyone can edit that site)?
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Tootletum · 15/09/2020 09:41

@endofthelinefinally what is she then?

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Sparklfairy · 15/09/2020 09:40

@Winesalot

Well sparkl the person I am talking about is sometimes on Piers’ show so .....
Oh I know who you mean then. What the actual fuck. So they invent a word which they use to label us, then claim it back?! Hmm

It's the 8th rule of misogyny in action.

I often lurk on this board and my jaw frequently drops, but this fairytale, "I've woken up this morning and today I identify as..." just blows my mind.

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ImaSababa · 15/09/2020 09:38

It's all a bit Victor/Victoria...

JamieLeeCurtains · 15/09/2020 09:17

I wondered if it had something to do with taking a few XY people who have been saying that they are XX and were AFAB, and who have been winning lots of women's running races, and popping them into a 'most oppressed ever' category. In other words, obfuscating the chromosomes.

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