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The awful trend on Twitter

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imhereforthesanity · 14/09/2020 19:29

Hi, I don't post often, but I've seen the awful twitter trend today in regard to J K Rowling, I just feel so scared and defeated about women's rights, why are more people not up in arms and defending us? I also fear for her and women's safety, as some of these TRA's seem really unhinged.

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Winesalot · 15/09/2020 11:44

@Ereshkigalangcleg

but men will pretend to be women to harm real women’ argument in the gender discussions

Yes, because there is evidence that men have done that. It's one of many reasons why most women don't want males in female spaces, certainly not on the basis of self ID alone.

No! No! Eresh. Remember that those men are not relevant because a male who wants to attack a women will do it anyway. The way they are dressed and present themselves have nothing to do with it at all.

Remember also, men dressing as women do it because they are women and not for any other reason... And despite being told repetitively that we should accept them for who they say they are, women should know straight away which ones will be declared never part of the community..... and never who they said they were.

Oh yes... and there are successfully prosecuted cases to prove that it actually does happen...

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2020 11:36

but men will pretend to be women to harm real women’ argument in the gender discussions

Yes, because there is evidence that men have done that. It's one of many reasons why most women don't want males in female spaces, certainly not on the basis of self ID alone.

littlbrowndog · 15/09/2020 11:34

So true royal. Mean rude am adding to your list

littlbrowndog · 15/09/2020 11:32

Lol merry😂😂

RoyalCorgi · 15/09/2020 11:31

I do hope karma hits her hard for her shit stirring.

Of course you do. JKR is someone who has donated millions of pounds to domestic violence charities, among others, and has set up her own charity for orphaned children. So naturally you'd wish her harm. What do you think that says about you, other than that you're a bitter, nasty, envious, mean-spirited ball of spite?

merrymouse · 15/09/2020 11:30

Who would have thought that speed reading was so popular!?

Credit to all those people who have raced through 900 pages!

SweetPetrichor, do you have any tips? Isn't it something about trying to take in several words at once? How long did it take you to read the book? Did you download it on Kindle as soon as it was released?

SerenityNowwwww · 15/09/2020 11:29

As my old mum used to say ‘that says more about you than them’ (when people wish someone else ill or speaks badly of them).

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 11:27

She’s a foul creature. I would wish harm on anyone, but I do hope karma hits her hard for her shit stirring. And I think that this perhaps is an indication that you have very much a bias against Joanne Rowling.

May I ask if you have actually read the essay and the tweets without reading the very biased opinion posts by people who are very deeply involved in discrediting her?

SerenityNowwwww · 15/09/2020 11:27

So she went to all the effort to research, write, edit, publish and now promote a whole flipping book to tweak the noses of few people?

I think not. Or she has way too much time on her hands (which I think not...)

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 11:24

Any other author, this would be nothing but with JK this is very clearly a dig.

So a book of 8-900 pages has been written at the same time as writing and paying attention to the Ickabog and been edited printed all since the time that Joanne Rowling released her essay and this all kicked off? Is that what you are saying? Because I do not think that you quite understand that this book was probably written and in with the editing team well before that. Particularly with Covid.

So, I dispute that this book has been written as a 'dig' and without reading it, it does seem like a book using a well worn subject matter.

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/09/2020 11:22

@SweetPetrichor

Any other author, this would be nothing but with JK this is very clearly a dig. You always see the ‘but men will pretend to be women to harm real women’ argument in the gender discussions...you can’t possibly see this book as anything but perpetuating that She’s a foul creature. I would wish harm on anyone, but I do hope karma hits her hard for her shit stirring.
Read it, have you?
dolorsit · 15/09/2020 11:21

I would wish harm on anyone, but I do hope karma hits her hard for her shit stirring.

A bit of a Freudian slip there, especially as you then go on to wish harm. Hmm

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/09/2020 11:19

Silence of The Lambs is trending on Twitter because of the amount of 'wait 'til they see/read SOTL' posts Grin

But that one is okay, because that wasn't made by JKR. And Thomas Harris isn't a woman. And it seems Psycho is all good because Alfred Hitchcock wasn't a women either.

Sewsosew · 15/09/2020 11:19

I hope they’ve asked to ban Silence of the Lambs then..

OtepotiLilliane42 · 15/09/2020 11:19

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek Royal Corgi, but you are right of course, as is Ereshkigalangcleg's observation too.

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jhuizinga · 15/09/2020 11:13

I've just bought my copy of Troubled Blood and am really looking forward to reading it as the nights draw in. I've enjoyed all the other Strike books but normally would have waited for the paperback had it not been for all the anti-JKR hoo-hah.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2020 11:08

They're happy to get all their news from reliable outlets such as Pink News, Buzzfeed and the Independent.

RoyalCorgi · 15/09/2020 11:01

Perhaps the 'many on social media' could read the book for themselves and come to their own conclusions as to its merits ... just a thought.

The unhinged misogynists of Twitter didn't even have the attention span to read Rowling's 3,600 word essay - they're not going to have the mental effort required to read a 900-page novel.

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/09/2020 11:00

@SunsetBeetch

No translation needed here, but I think we have a winner in the "unhinged TRA" category.
That’s a very heavy looking gun for a woman to hold. I’m a physically strong woman, but I’d feel the strain of that with my typical shorter arms and less muscle mass.
Joisanofthedales · 15/09/2020 10:58

SunsetBeetch
That photo was really really disturbing

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2020 10:57

The Independent is a joke now.

OtepotiLilliane42 · 15/09/2020 10:56

I bought my copy of Troubled Blood in one of our local bookshops today and am looking forward to reading it. It had only just arrived and hadn't yet been put on display, so I must have been the first customer to buy it.

I've enjoyed the other Strike novels, and have been interested in the comments on the television adaptation on another thread, as I haven't seen the series myself. It arrived in New Zealand last year, but was on a on a channel I didn't have access to.

Coincidentally I received a letter from J.K. Rowling's office yesterday thanking my sister and I for the card we sent weeks ago supporting her right to speak on women and the need for them to have safe, female only spaces. We never expected a reply so it was a lovely surprise to get such a warm response.

The article about the book in today's Independent was, shall we say, biased.

Reports of the cross-dressing murderer storyline come as Rowling has been accused of transphobia since June, when she mocked a headline that included the inclusive phrasing “people who menstruate”. (I wouldn't describe that phrase as inclusive ... but the word 'woman' is obviously too inflammable for the Independent.)
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Many on social media have voiced renewed concerns in the wake of Kerridge’s review, expressing fears that the book’s plot would foster harmful and unfounded tropes. Perhaps the 'many on social media' could read the book for themselves and come to their own conclusions as to its merits ... just a thought.

Joisanofthedales · 15/09/2020 10:55

My pre ordered book is arriving today.
I'd forgotten the publishing date until reminded of it by the TRAs.
The law of unintended consequences maybe. Grin

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