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The awful trend on Twitter

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imhereforthesanity · 14/09/2020 19:29

Hi, I don't post often, but I've seen the awful twitter trend today in regard to J K Rowling, I just feel so scared and defeated about women's rights, why are more people not up in arms and defending us? I also fear for her and women's safety, as some of these TRA's seem really unhinged.

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BaronessWrongCrowd · 15/09/2020 15:42

Can't they see that they are bullying someone. This we love everyone and are oh so inclusive alphabetti spaghetti are nothing but vicious bullies. It's disgusting behaviour.

JK Rowling is made of stern stuff but others aren't.

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/09/2020 15:37

@FloralBunting

There's a letter to the publishers from TRAs asking them to pull the book or at least begin promoting Mermaids. Shonky suicide stats a go-go.🙄
I hope the publishers tell them to get to fuck.

They really think the world fucking owes them, don't they?

Collidascope · 15/09/2020 15:36

@Malahaha

I do have an idea how the wokesters take Twitter so seriously, though, as if it IS real. I remember a couple decades ago, when the internet first erupted into our lives, and it first became possible to chat online in forums with virtual friends. I was in my very first o forum, I think it was actually an Amazon forum, and all got a bit obsessed; it was so new, so revolutionary! We felt as if we were at the centre of the universe, and every single person on earth were watching out inane online chats, flirtations, silly jokes, squabbles, etc. We felt very clever and unique. I was old enough to know better, yet I was swept up in this feeling of being watched and read by the entire world. It was so heady! And then I woke up.

I think the Twitterati must feel a bit like this.

Add to that the fact that the papers actually report on whatever Twitter spat is playing out, or on whichever weekly witch is being burnt. The fact that the majority of newspaper readers look at JK's comments, and think, 'Yeah, nothing particularly controversial there...' is lost on them.
FloralBunting · 15/09/2020 15:34

There's a letter to the publishers from TRAs asking them to pull the book or at least begin promoting Mermaids. Shonky suicide stats a go-go.🙄

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 15:30

silly jokes well, pointed jokes are Titiana’s specialty.

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 15:28

And another from Titiana. They are on a roll today!!

I’ve just ordered 200 copies of JK Rowling’s new book to burn them in solidarity with planetjedward.

That’ll teach her for being such a vile fascist.

twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/1305875448707067905?s=21

Plus there is this.

twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/1305822704466120706?s=21

Malahaha · 15/09/2020 15:24

I do have an idea how the wokesters take Twitter so seriously, though, as if it IS real. I remember a couple decades ago, when the internet first erupted into our lives, and it first became possible to chat online in forums with virtual friends. I was in my very first o forum, I think it was actually an Amazon forum, and all got a bit obsessed; it was so new, so revolutionary! We felt as if we were at the centre of the universe, and every single person on earth were watching out inane online chats, flirtations, silly jokes, squabbles, etc. We felt very clever and unique.
I was old enough to know better, yet I was swept up in this feeling of being watched and read by the entire world. It was so heady! And then I woke up.

I think the Twitterati must feel a bit like this.

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 15:23

And then adds a choice of threats against Joanne Rowling.

Sorry ‘adds a picture of threats against*

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 15:22

And of course Titania cuts to the chase!

twitter.com/titaniamcgrath/status/1305867041337901056?s=21

I still cannot believe JK Rowling has written a novel which implies that trans people can be villains.

We in the LGBTQIA+ community are ALWAYS compassionate and loving and committed to justice, peace and basic human decency.

And then adds a choice of threats against Joanne Rowling.

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/09/2020 15:19

@Malahaha

It's now at Amazon Nr 2 in both Kindle and hardback. Selling like hotcakes!
I missed that. I expect it’ll be number one, by the end of the day. JKR must be laughing her ass off.
Malahaha · 15/09/2020 15:19

@Collidascope

No 1 on Audible. Twitter is another world. A mad one.
Absolutely. Nobody cares what people are raving about there. In real life, not a single person I know is on Twitter. Neither of my kids, nor my son in law, nor my daughter's in-laws, nobody in my circle. Many are on FB, but not Twitter. They all have no idea about what's trending. I am only there for professional reasons, and I would leave in a heartbeat if I didn't need to show my face there. But I only check in occasionally and have not even looked at this new hashtag.

Twitter is a planet onto itself. Not real.

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/09/2020 15:18

@Collidascope

No 1 on Audible. Twitter is another world. A mad one.
Thank you to all the lovely wokesters and TRAs for the free advertising. 🤣
Collidascope · 15/09/2020 15:15

No 1 on Audible. Twitter is another world. A mad one.

Redshoeblueshoe · 15/09/2020 15:12

Well I've just got my copy. I'm going to sit down with a cup of tea and read it.
I may be gone some time Brew

Malahaha · 15/09/2020 15:10

It's now at Amazon Nr 2 in both Kindle and hardback. Selling like hotcakes!

HoxtonBonnet · 15/09/2020 14:57

Just bought the book (also loving the tv series). My nieces and nephews will be getting the Ickabod for Christmas and the in-laws will be getting the first In the Strike series.

GrolliffetheDragon · 15/09/2020 14:38

You can often spot them in a place they shouldn't be, they are the ones engaging in harmful behaviour, or attempting to do so

Point is, once upon a time if a man was seen in the ladies he wouldn't have to be engaging in harmful behaviour to be seen to be acting suspiciously. Just being in there was enough. Now we're told we should never assume someones gender, so a male appearing man, in male clothes in the ladies should never, ever be questioned - unless they are actually harming someone at which point it's a.) too late and b.) we'll probably be told it's our fault in some way.

GrumpyGran8 · 15/09/2020 14:31

The book is dedicated to her mother in law who is a retired social worker and WEA worker (is that something to do with domestic abuse).
Workers Educational Association, I think.They're a charity providing adult education courses for disadvantaged communities.

Siablue · 15/09/2020 13:08

I agree that she probably became interested in this debate through researching the book. That is interesting what she said about talking to social workers. The book is dedicated to her mother in law who is a retired social worker and WEA worker (is that something to do with domestic abuse).

Kantastic · 15/09/2020 12:58

I suspect that a lot of these people are angry because they're worried she'll bring the world's attention to the existence of autogynephilia, via discussions of cross-dressing serial killers.

Of course if that's their concern they probably shouldn't have thrown a giant Twitter tantrum to bring attention to the issue, but I guess the narcissistic rage took over.

(This is neither a generalisation about any group, nor a specific accusation against any individual so it should be safe, right? Or will I get deleted just for using the word?)

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/09/2020 12:58

Any person saying that she whipped it up and had it published and printed since her essay (or even her tweet in 2019) indulges in magical thinking, methinks. But, I think we already knew that.

I’d be very bloody impressed if she could write a book within that timeframe. Grin

Winesalot · 15/09/2020 12:55

Malahaha

Exactly. The publishers I worked for once had a very long lead time and it was merely updating the content each year. And this book could have also been one that was delayed for release by publishers due to covid. I have not bothered to check.

Any person saying that she whipped it up and had it published and printed since her essay (or even her tweet in 2019) indulges in magical thinking, methinks. But, I think we already knew that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2020 12:53

I've seen that suggested by several people today, Floral.

She implies that it's a possibility in her original essay:

My interest in trans issues pre-dated Maya’s case by almost two years, during which I followed the debate around the concept of gender identity closely. I’ve met trans people, and read sundry books, blogs and articles by trans people, gender specialists, intersex people, psychologists, safeguarding experts, social workers and doctors, and followed the discourse online and in traditional media. On one level, my interest in this issue has been professional, because I’m writing a crime series, set in the present day, and my fictional female detective is of an age to be interested in, and affected by, these issues herself, but on another, it’s intensely personal, as I’m about to explain.

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

DeliciouslyFemale · 15/09/2020 12:52

@FloralBunting

Maybe her research into the phenomena of some males wearing culturally feminine attire to enact nefarious deeds led her to the 2020 kerfuffle? I mean, heck, she wouldn't be the first person to start investigating this topic and realize "Fucking ada, this shit is even more ridiculous than I guessed!"
Totally agree with you Flora.
FloralBunting · 15/09/2020 12:47

Maybe her research into the phenomena of some males wearing culturally feminine attire to enact nefarious deeds led her to the 2020 kerfuffle? I mean, heck, she wouldn't be the first person to start investigating this topic and realize "Fucking ada, this shit is even more ridiculous than I guessed!"

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