Incels on the rise?

Its not just the number of incels that is alarming; its also that the ideas and language of the incel and MRA movement are spreading into mainstream men's culture.

If you've spent any time on Reddit, you will have seen a range; from men who think its all just a huge joke through to men who hate women in general and feminists in particular. I've seen men who suddenly realise they have been socialising with violent extremists, and I've seen men posting violent images including murdered women.

New Study Reports 50% of Gen Z Men Think Feminism Has “Gone Too Far”

The UK-based advocacy group HOPE not hate recently released a July 2020 report detailing the attitudes and actions of 16 to 24 year-olds in the age of COVID-19. This study, titled Fear and Hope, studied over 2,000 Generation Z individuals to determine their attitudes about domestic and global politics. The study found that approximately 50 percent of Gen Z men feel that feminism has “gone too far.”

The study revealed that just 21 percent of young male respondents view feminism favorably. Conversely, nearly one in five young men maintain negative views about feminism, and just 39% of young men think that “it is a more dangerous time to be a woman than a man in Britain today.” A larger portion of respondents felt that feminism “makes it harder for men to succeed”.

The report draws attention to the ways in which many of these attitudes are particularly present in the group of individuals deemed “reactionary conservatives.”
feminist.org/news/new-study-reports-50-of-gen-z-men-think-feminism-has-gone-too-far/

To be fair, she's not a gender critical writer. It's not her area of research/interest. She does what she does.

She doesn't have to be everything to you everybody to have a valid point.

How can Laura even talk about sexism when she doesn't recognise sex
Laura uses gender to define men and women.
She also ignores that TRAs engage in all the same offensive behaviours

She's not just talking about incels though. She is talking about men, oridinary seeming, every day, polite to your face men who also post on boards specifically set up to hate women, discuss and even encourage/plan attacks on women.

She was on Jeremy Vine earlier in the week, I posted about it at the time. She 'infiltrated' a lot of online stuff, went to meetings - yes, some men have meetings where they go specifically to discuss how to hate women more effectively!

I'm pondering buying the book...

They feel they have a right to have sex with a woman and that women don’t have the right to be fussy about who they sleep with.

incel = involuntary celibate
Basically, men who aren't successful with the opposite sex and blame it on women and feminism.

What are incels?

Should say, "I am not inclined to trust her grasp of numbers"

Without knowing much about her method, I'm not inclined to Laura Bates grasp of numbers. Her schtick in her Guardian column was to think of something that seemed sexist to her, put it in her Everyday sexism Twitter or sm and ask her followers to respond with their own examples and then write a column based on the Tweets about how this issue was an example of common Everyday Sexism - sometimes she'd even claim the particular behaviour was on the rise.

As for incels - I think originally they were a small group that was pretty marginalised, largely men with some significant mental health issues. The press coverage has increased interest and their numbers significantly IMO. There are probably also other things driving it - in a lot of ways incels are like young men who are radicalised in other settings throughout the world. They usually don't have much hope of bettering their situation, of a family life, maybe not much hope of a good job or getting out through education. Overall people are having less sex, they are isolated by social changes in communities, the internet, pornography changes their sexual response. Those kinds of conditions are increasing in many western nations.