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Remember the I Heart JKR Poster (Edinburgh) that got loads of complaints...

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SaltandVinegarSquares · 11/09/2020 12:47

According to Network Rail they "received complaints" (plural) about the poster, and one complaint specifically stated "rampant transphobia".

Only it turns out, they didn't.

Not a single fucking one.

Liars.

158 complaints about it's removal though.

Remember the I Heart JKR Poster (Edinburgh) that got loads of complaints...

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Tanith · 11/09/2020 18:53

@Wearywithteens

JKR - a woman who is predominately known for writing some of most loved and popular children’s books in history. JKR - a woman who respects transgender people and wants to defend the hard won rights and protections of women and girls. JKR - a woman.

There really is some truly evil ideology at work against women right now. Someone made a decision to take down that poster. Some one. Who?

More than that. Every single one of the Harry Potter books talks about rail travel. It's a central part of the whole story, with the Hogwarts Express, Platform 9 3/4 and Kings Cross station.

Doesn't NR benefit from the events around the 1st September and the publicity from the books?
They should be grovelling to JKR over this!

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 11/09/2020 18:44

@AnyOldPrion

It may not use the words anti-trans, but as one of the comments states, it uses quotation marks around women-only spaces. I found that annoying. In addition, the statement about the GRA is very bland and doesn’t make it clear that “self-ID” entails giving people the right to choose their legal sex with no requirement for meaningful transition or medical assessment.

True, but I am in a place where I need to look for the positives right now!

You are right though.

crunchermuncher · 11/09/2020 18:43

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3982298-I-love-JK-Rowling-poster-removed-by-Network-Rail-for-being-political-after-transphobic-complaint?pg=4

Here's the original thread where a second reply to the poster from NR started that as it was paid for by a gender reform group it fell foul of their non political posters policy.

Which is clearly bollocks if they have Pride posters up - they're happy to give a voice to some political views... just not all

AnyOldPrion · 11/09/2020 18:41

DeaconBoo · 11/09/2020 18:38

@MilleniumHallsWalledGarden

DeaconBlue the rampant transphobia etc quotes seem to come from these posts from Lewis Baird and Sorcha on twitter that the Network Rail Scotland account replied to (linked upthread).

Yes, that's all I can find. In which case the OP might be more accurately worded "Tweets complaining about the poster, including one claiming it amounted to "rampant transphobia" were directed to Network Rail, who stated that they removed the poster due to its 'political nature'. Press speculated that NR had received complaints; however it transpires that these were only via Tweets discussing the issue. 158 complaints about the poster's removal, including a number of Twitter posts, were counted by NR."

I think words and their meanings are important and while I think NR's stated policy is.... questionable... I can't see evidence they actually lied about receiving complaints.

BovaryX · 11/09/2020 18:34

The state-owned company confirmed it had not been formally asked to do so by any members of the public

It makes explicit that this is a state owned company. What justification is there for its removal? Capitulating to Twitter is not an impressive look.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 11/09/2020 18:27

I love that Times article because I think it's the first one I've read that doesn't use the phrase "anti trans". Really clear.

Toseland · 11/09/2020 18:24

Guess this was an inside job then?

Wearywithteens · 11/09/2020 18:16

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This has been withdrawn at the poster's request.

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/09/2020 18:03

Sorry, should have checked before posting another share token.

NonnyMouse1337 · 11/09/2020 18:02

Rowling poster removed from Waverley station despite zero public complaints

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ed2f30f0-f440-11ea-aeed-ec95eac61729?shareToken=cb26ce735cd77f6ee1205254ccb6d7e6

Weaverspin · 11/09/2020 17:59

Here you go, with share token: Article in Times on 11th September

rogdmum · 11/09/2020 17:56

Here’s a share token for today’s Times article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ed2f30f0-f440-11ea-aeed-ec95eac61729?shareToken=41932a1a243e2b00ee64dde03496f03b

rogdmum · 11/09/2020 17:54

Has anyone linked the response sent to Alan Henness re his FOI query? Yet another angle by Network Rail...

twitter.com/zeno001/status/1304407051746062341?s=21

(Sorry, is screenshots so no text for me to copy)

jhuizinga · 11/09/2020 17:23

There's now an article on this in the Scotland section of the Times. I don't seem to be able to send a share token from my phone app, however.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 11/09/2020 16:39

Sorry for messing up your name there!

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 11/09/2020 16:38

DeaconBlue the rampant transphobia etc quotes seem to come from these posts from Lewis Baird and Sorcha on twitter that the Network Rail Scotland account replied to (linked upthread).

crunchermuncher · 11/09/2020 16:30

Wasn't part of the issue that NR didn't approve of the group that funded the poster, regardless of what it actually said? I found that profoundly disturbing.

Will try and find link...

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2020 16:28

Would this come under an advertising thing or a rail travel ombudsmen thing?

I mean, who do we complain to?

highame · 11/09/2020 16:16

or is that some other train company?

highame · 11/09/2020 16:16

So if they don't have political ads why have they got a bloody big f*ck off train with stonewall stuff all over it

BovaryX · 11/09/2020 16:08

@bimblingonagain

so if their policy of no political ads lead to this poster being taken down, surely they will not have posters up for Stnewall, Mermids and so on?

Good question.

bimblingonagain · 11/09/2020 16:06

so if their policy of no political ads lead to this poster being taken down, surely they will not have posters up for Stnewall, Mermids and so on?

MedusasButterDish · 11/09/2020 15:59

Thank you, @SaltandVinegarSquares! I've just cross-posted this to www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3949155-Social-media-resilience-training-for-businesses-institutions , because this sort of thing is happening over and over again, and if companies refuse to learn best practice, we grown-up citizens will. Thank you for your FOI efforts!

DeaconBoo · 11/09/2020 15:57

Op, as i said, your highlighted text was written by Edinburgh Live not by Network Rail (your OP claims "according to Network Rail").

I don't think the fundamentally changes the point of what's happened, ie "complaint" via Twitter shitstorm, but I do think it's important to correctly attribute quotes particularly when accusing orgs of explicitly lying.

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