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James Caspian

31 replies

Mumsnut · 09/09/2020 17:47

Now aplplying to take his case to the ECHR having been refused leave for it to be held in the UK courts (because of early procedural errors as I understand it )

For the gardeners amongst us, there is a hole to fill(Crowd Justice)

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PurpleHoodie · 26/09/2020 08:54

Donating and bump.

NicholasTopliss · 26/09/2020 08:49

Oh, I didn't realise that. I stand corrected.
So many universities with very similar names now.

AuroraBor · 26/09/2020 08:46

To be fair, Bath Spa University and University of Bath are two different universities.

NicholasTopliss · 25/09/2020 14:30

Never mind irony, it is hypocrisy.

unwashedanddazed · 25/09/2020 13:10

"The longitudinal studies just haven't been done," says Dr Catherine Butler, a clinical psychologist at the University of Bath.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51806011

Bath academic lamenting the lack of research in BBC piece about detranstioners. The fucking irony.

NicholasTopliss · 25/09/2020 12:57

In the light of the new DfE guidance , digging to support James' research is even more important. Not many days to go now and he needs help.

SwimmingCait · 19/09/2020 21:08

Done a bit of digging. Bumping in case anyone else can find a spade.

nevertrustaherdofcows · 19/09/2020 14:00

Bumping ...

Coatandhat · 16/09/2020 23:49

Donated

fatblackcatspaw · 16/09/2020 23:26

bump... I'm out of funds hope others can dig deep

endofthelinefinally · 16/09/2020 23:04

I can't understand why MN don't support this research. I won't post again, but I hope James will get the funding he needs.

JamieLeeCurtains · 16/09/2020 22:57

I like a nice bit of digging.

Important stuff.

endofthelinefinally · 16/09/2020 22:45

Thank you ChattyLion.

ChattyLion · 16/09/2020 20:09

Bumping this important thread Flowers

endofthelinefinally · 16/09/2020 18:52

My thread suppporting this research has been deleted by MN.
I have no idea why.
I spent many years in medical research. It is so, so important.
I hope this won't be deleted.

endofthelinefinally · 15/09/2020 09:33

Just bumping this because he really needs a bit more support.

FindTheTruth · 11/09/2020 10:51

reported ... a tenfold increase over five years of patients asking him to do 'reverse' surgery

This research must happen to understand why, to get evidence, to get to the truth, to stop anyone else going through reverse surgery. The current situation doesn't help anyone including the trans community.

FindTheTruth · 11/09/2020 10:43

Donated

" I became aware that there appear to be a growing number of people who have sought to reverse the surgery they had as part of a gender transition. As part of a self funded Masters degree at Bath Spa University I applied for permission to research this group to find out more. Gender Reassignment Surgery includes surgery to the genitals, and for women changing to male, often removal of the breasts. I wanted to talk to the people who regretted their GRS and then had surgery to try to reverse the original surgery. There is no research into this phenomenon, and it is needed to develop insight into why this is happening and to learn from these peoples’ experiences"

Signalbox · 10/09/2020 13:04

donated and bump.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 10/09/2020 12:12

I was just wondering about this case the other day. It's ridiculous to restrict academic freedom because of the noise being made by special interest groups. As pp said, facts exist regardless.

NonnyMouse1337 · 10/09/2020 10:21

James Caspian

Sept. 9, 2020

We are going to the European Court of Human Rights!
A huge thank you to all of you who have supported this case so far.

My lawyers have applied to European Court of Human Rights, since the Court of Appeal refused, on technical grounds, to grant a hearing for my case against Bath Spa University for preventing my research into gender detransition.

Since this case began in 2017 there has been a huge acceleration in the numbers of people reversing and regretting their gender transitions. Dr Miro Djordjevic, the surgeon who suggested that I research detransitioners as long ago as 2014, reported in a documentary last year a tenfold increase over five years of patients asking him to do 'reverse' surgery, and has published a paper asking for research to be done. Meanwhile, academics who talk about detransition, and consider researching it, are vilified and persecuted as 'transphobes', and risk their careers and livelihoods.

This is not only wrong, but unethical. I still believe that the courts are the best place to have established the right to research what has become a controversial topic, and to make a precedent to protect free speech and democratic principles. That is why this case is so important. Please continue to help by pledging and sending the link out on social media - Twitter, Facebook etc.

nevertrustaherdofcows · 10/09/2020 09:47

There is a crowd-funder on Crowd Justice...

ChattyLion · 10/09/2020 09:30

Honestly I could vent all day about the men’s sexual entitlement activists hijacking gender theory and using it for bullying and authoritarian silencing.

The TRA lobby should be saying ‘we support research so we know what we are advocating for is right and helps people’. Of course they don’t because it’s actually not about the needs of trans people at all. If it were, research to help detransitioned people like Caspian proposes to do, would be massively supported. And many other people would support the need to do that research too. So it’s an interesting little insight into a men’s sexual entitlement campaign to see how they don’t call for research because that might not match up with their advocacy.

I could also vent all day about how the university sector has become marketised into submission and how OF COURSE free speech, unpalatable speech, unfashionable research, challenging research all fall by the wayside when universities work within a consumer culture and are starved of core funds from the public purse. The TRAS who intimidate universities from doing research, including from among their own students are reprehensible- but Bath Spa should be ashamed of themselves, Universities UK (their representative trade body) should be ashamed of themselves and most importantly government should be held to account. Gavin Williamson and Boris Johnson are responsible for this. We need universities to generate and test out ideas. If anyone ever doubted that then COVID shows it. We can’t leave that all stuff to the market. We need an educated workforce. We need expertise. We need experts who can work for the public good not for commercial advantage. We need education for its own sake as a public good. And guess- what we do have to pay for it. Like anything in life- good journalism, food, we have to be prepared to pay for universities to exist. Ideas are a product the people create and test in higher education. Universities serve a key public purpose of providing an education and developing expertise among students and academics.

What happened to this government initiative of 2019 then?
www.gov.uk/government/news/free-speech-to-be-protected-at-university

Meanwhile James Caspian is struggling for funds from the general public to take his case to the ECHR...

PaleBlueMoonlight · 10/09/2020 08:51

ECHR is completely separate from the EU.

endofthelinefinally · 10/09/2020 08:49

If we leave the EU with no deal, will the ECHR still have influence here?