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Harry’s doing bad day for S organisation again...

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GiantKitten · 05/09/2020 16:33

Says it’s tomorrow

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Lordamighty · 06/09/2020 11:59

Digging done, this can’t come soon enough.

BettyFilous · 06/09/2020 11:52

Fantastic news. I have done some digging.

Winesalot · 06/09/2020 11:34

I agree FannyCann. I think that there will be a new smoking scandal in a decade or so.

ToriaPumpkin · 06/09/2020 11:31

Definitely worth the wait! Thank you 2falls and everyone else with the bravery and strength to be taking these actions. I hope the amazing young woman taking this action knows how many people are behind her.

yourhairiswinterfire · 06/09/2020 11:26

Wow. Get fucked Stonewall!

God bless that young teenager. (Can't believe it's taken a teenager to do this, though!)

Does this mean SW's funding and influence will take a massive hit when it all comes out? 🤞

Jeeeez · 06/09/2020 11:25

Woah....well that was definitely worth waiting for!!

Thank you 2falls and Miss A for your sterling work.

Spero · 06/09/2020 11:23

@SoManyActivities

Is this a similar judicial review to the one that Anne Sinnot has applied for? I am not very good at the legal side of things with all of this?

A teenage girl though doing this though, wow. Is she annoymous because she has chosen to be to avoid abuse, or because she is under 18? What an amazing girl!

Thank you so much for all you do @2fallsagain

Ann Sinnot is challenged the Equality and Human Rights Commission who were set up to have one job - promote and protect human rights as set out in the Equality Act.

What instead they did, with ex Stonewall chief at the helm, was issue incorrect and unlawful advice that ignored women's rights to single sex spaces. They then withdrew that advice but refused to issue correct advice.

They are not doing their job. Worse than that, they are actively undermining community cohesion and the respect we should all feel for one another by unlawfully promoting one minority characteristic above all others - particularly above women.

Spero · 06/09/2020 11:21

@UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea

I'm so sorry to be thick but can someone explain why this is brilliant news?
It's already been said but bears repeating.

For over five years now, unlawful advice has been pushed to ALL major organisations and institutions, including schools, hospitals, and the CPS - who, don't forget are the CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE, they decide if you get charged or not with a hate crime.

The safety of women and girls has been directly jeopardised and those women and girls who tried to speak up have been threatened, lost their jobs, lost their platforms, lost their voice.

this is a crucial legal action. the Government cannot sit on the fence while the CPS is challenged about its own unlawful behaviour. Win or lose this will provoke debate and concern about how far the tentacles of Stonewall were allowed to intrude.

I am very concerned to hear that journalists couldn't seem to grasp this. This is about our essential and fundamental freedoms; it is about the rule of law. There is really nothing more important, in my view. Without the rule of law we have nothing.

SoManyActivities · 06/09/2020 11:20

Is this a similar judicial review to the one that Anne Sinnot has applied for? I am not very good at the legal side of things with all of this?

A teenage girl though doing this though, wow. Is she annoymous because she has chosen to be to avoid abuse, or because she is under 18? What an amazing girl!

Thank you so much for all you do @2fallsagain

FannyCann · 06/09/2020 11:16

*Imagine if it came out that the smoking lobby was so ingrained in setting policy leading to law enforcement about vaping and hiding the science around the health risks associated with vaping.

Maybe not the best analogy but best I can think of.*

Oh I don't know. The safety/health benefits of choosing vaping instead of cigarettes are overstated in my view and it will be some time before the risks can be properly assessed. Meanwhile sales are booming.

2fallsagain · 06/09/2020 11:11

@UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea

Again just to check, the judicial review needs to work first? What are the odds? How long will it take? And do they still need to raise money through a crowd funder?
Yes we have a long way to go get but this case has taken months to build and is very strong. So yes, it does still need funding. All info on the Safe Schools Twitter thread or our website.
2fallsagain · 06/09/2020 11:09

@AlsoNotAGirl

What search terms on the crowdjustice site bring up this case?
all SSAUK news is on the Twitter thread or on our website: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1302535434287943680?s=20
Datun · 06/09/2020 11:03

The CPS have already had to withdraw their schools advice. They have already been giving the wrong guidance.

Stonewall is a political lobby group. The CPS should be absolutely impartial and not be taking advice from a lobby group - which they then implement in schools and subsequently have to withdraw on the basis that it's illegal.

Its regulatory capture at the highest level. And needs challenging.

Winesalot · 06/09/2020 10:58

Imagine if it came out that the smoking lobby was so ingrained in setting policy leading to law enforcement about vaping and hiding the science around the health risks associated with vaping.

Maybe not the best analogy but best I can think of.

Winesalot · 06/09/2020 10:56

the judicial review needs to work first

Yes. But even if something wildly unforeseen means it doesn’t, the government will need to pull away from ever allowing interest groups so much powerful. This has been a scandal in itself!!!

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 06/09/2020 10:52

Again just to check, the judicial review needs to work first? What are the odds? How long will it take? And do they still need to raise money through a crowd funder?

Winesalot · 06/09/2020 10:52

@UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea

I'm so sorry to be thick but can someone explain why this is brilliant news?
Because it shine the light on the fact the crown prosecutors service has allowed a huge interest group to advise them on policy and enacting law. An interest group that has misinterpreted the equality act to their own advantage. And the government has implemented that not their own legislation and the actual intent that it was created to do (as can be read on Hansard).
ArabellaScott · 06/09/2020 10:49

It's good news because the regulatory capture from gender ideologists has to be reversed. It's pulling out the rot at the root, really. I think the best way to protect the rights of women and children.

ArabellaScott · 06/09/2020 10:48

Try Safe Schools Alliance, Also?

Winesalot · 06/09/2020 10:48

Thank you Miss A!!!

If you look at the long, long list of government departments and public bodies who are part of the Stonewall Champions Programme we can see how this could possibly play out.

this is so important. Either way, the government will now have to be very careful about allowing lobby groups so much power in policy making.

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 06/09/2020 10:47

I'm so sorry to be thick but can someone explain why this is brilliant news?

AlsoNotAGirl · 06/09/2020 10:45

What search terms on the crowdjustice site bring up this case?

Datun · 06/09/2020 10:45

Excellent. Thank goodness the tanker is getting turned round.

Stonewall wanted to remove the single sex exemptions from the equality act. Which would make it completely illegal under the actual for woman and girls to have access to a space or place, away from a man.

Furthermore, they have instructed institutions across the country in their interpretation of the equality act, which is inaccurate.

And the CPS, the bloody CPS, appear to endorse it all. They've already had to remove some of the schools guidance.

What the bloody hell are they thinking? They must know the actual law.

ArabellaScott · 06/09/2020 10:41

Dug. Thanks, all.

heathspeedwell · 06/09/2020 10:41

This is brilliant news, looking forward to a spot of digging this morning!

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