Jane Garvey quits Woman's Hour

Whoever they pick, its not going to be someone openly critical of transgenderism, so it will either be someone Woke or someone secretly GC who doesn't have the capital to be open about that and front it out. So they're going to have to toe the TWAW line.

We all knew JM & JG were both aware of how bullshit gender ideology was, but it didn't really help much in getting the issue talked about with anywhere near the clarity needed.

It's the hope which kills you... So it would be better for everyone if they just threw in the towel and handed it over to a transwoman and Jameela Jamil and got done with the whole thing, then we can all switch off.

Meh...I think calling a woman full of herself is some pretty strong internalised misogyny.

I think Fi is excellent but appreciate different opinions, if only they were rooted in intelligent criticism.

People are allowed to change jobs! Doesn’t mean it’s anything to do with TRAs or anything sinister. Perhaps she just wants to move on and is excited about her new programme.

Perhaps they'll give the job to Jane Fae, so that transwomen no longer have to quake in terror at the thought of being on Woman's Hour? I'm sure the audience would love to hear all about the importance of being able to access the kind of currently banned extremely violent rape porn that causes permanent physical injuries to the performers, and how women are to blame for being murdered because of their silly fragile lady skulls.

Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if the next presenter was a trans woman.

Sadly that was my first though too.

Calm down Michelle! It hasn't happened yet. We're just pontificating.
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You would also think that male people identifying as women would have some interest in female things and female voices and female issues, wouldn't you?

Isn't it baffling that actually it's not like that at all? The inclusion of male people into the female only spaces definitely is, and the presence of female people who aren't allowed to have/do anything where male people can't be present absolutely is, but then there's the flat desire that female people stop talking about or doing anything not of interest or relevance to male people present because excluding and implying that women are female.

And certainly from the evidence I see, there's no celebrating female people or interest in their voices or stories, or wanting to support and be involved with female causes because sisterhood etc, as if there's no fellow feeling. Lots of expectations and demands, but no apparent want for community or even good will.

It's not like the world isn't knee deep in incredible, inspiring, exciting female people - we're half the bloody population ffs. And there are a ton of female focused issues that are forefront on the radar of female people that are urgently in need of talking about and action taken over and of high interest to female people. And the whole point of womans hour is one, one spot, on a week's worth of radio, that is for and about female people. Gardeners get more air time.

But even this has to be all about men and men's feelings of exclusion and men's issues, and as discussing here, it's quite possible that this will end up hosted by someone male who will wish to ensure discussion is 'inclusive', by which we mean certainly not about things of exclusive interest to female people. Because mean and nasty to male people for there to be anything at all ever that is not in some way about them.

It's misogyny on bloody crack.

There can't be any doubt that the timing of JG leaving is linked to how things will be post Jenni Murray, surely? As in she hadn't intended to go but has seen the ghost of Christmas future and decided to move on.

I wonder if having a TW presenter would be a short term pain for long term gain? Judging from my mum a lot of the listeners are still in be kind mode - the light shed by a firmly TWAW no debate presenter might open a lot of eyes to where we are heading.

Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if the next presenter was a trans woman.

I'd quite like it if it was. I think listening numbers would soon give a telling message.

Whats wrong with Fi
She's seriously patronising, and full of herself. Way over promoted in my opinion.

Please not the dreadful Fi Glover.

What’s wrong with Fi???

I love Jenni and Jane and am really sorry to see both of them go. Fingers crossed for their replacements.

From The Guardian:

"Garvey will leave at the end of 2020 after 13 years in the job, and will host her own interview series on the station in 2021."

and

"Garvey will host her own “high-profile” interview series on Radio 4 from next April. The series promises interviews of people with “extraordinary stories and experiences to tell from across the UK”."

and

"The BBC also said Garvey’s podcast with Fi Glover – Fortunately… with Fi and Jane – would become part of the Radio 4 broadcast schedule from January.
The podcast, which has become one of the most popular produced by Radio 4, has an upcoming guest lineup that includes the Great British Bake Off star Nadiya Hussain and Ruth Jones, the co-writer and co-star of the comedy series Gavin and Stacey."

www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/04/jane-garvey-to-leave-womans-hour-to-host-bbc-interview-series-radio-4

I think things have been different there since that idiot said they were too scared to talk about trans issues when someone who didn't agree with them was in the same room. I really felt Jane's frustration then. And of course the attempt to no-platform Jenni must have played a huge part in both of their decisions to go.

When I heard about that white woman who said she was black, I was hoping for a WH piece on that and its obvious comparison to trans, but will have to keep hoping, I reckon.

I'll really miss Jane Garvey - more so than Jenni - I think she's done a great job.

I selfishly hope it’s not Emma Barnett because I’d miss her on radio 5live! It’s bad enough that we have to have right on Nihal Arthanayake 5 days a week as it is without them moving people who actually are interesting to listen to.

Considering it's an open ambition to have someone born male in every single facility or situation that was intended to centre females?

Wouldn't be surprised at all. Won't that be a truly lovely achievement for someone born male as an inspiration to other people born male? And would WH then have to do much as certain women's officers have done in only be willing to talk about and represent issues that affect people born male, and reject anything female specific as not a woman's issue/exclusive/hate?

What impact will that have on the intended listeners who have just that one hour a week that notices them as a group and issues specific to them as a group?

According to popular attitude: well they're only female, so who cares?

If it'sa transwomanthen that's the BBC telling us loud and clear that they don't give a shit about women.

I didn't expect this. I wonder if it's anything to do with JM's replacement?