Sanitary products for people who menstruate

How many times does this have to be said? Not ALL women menstruate but ONLY women menstruate.

No men menstruate, some trans men menstruate because they are biologically female. Any biological man bleeding from their reproductive organs should see a doctor

How is it helping anyone to go along with the pretence that human beings can change sex? Wear what you like, call yourself whatever you want, no problem with whatever of the multiple genders people want to present as but humans cannot change sex

Imagine this being your main problem with the world. God god this thread.

I no longer menstruate. I’m still a god damn women. Some men menstruate. Still makes them men. They’re not reduced to their bits.

If you think this erases women you’ve lost it

To be fair, half the problem is euphemisms, I would never have thought to myself "I need some feminine hygiene products".. Surely "period products" would make more sense.

Why do so many products need to be sexed/gendered?

Can't they simply be menstruation, incontinence, shaving etc etc products?

What the makers of menstrual products are absolutely right on is ditching the term 'feminine'. They're for all women who have periods, regardless of whether they're feminine or masculine.

Fucking madness. Trans people who do not have a uterus and ovaries are incapable of menstruating. What is so difficult to understand about this and why are companies deciding they can?

Another shop I'll not be going in again.

Because if there is a push to remove sex/gender descriptions, why only woman?

It sure is a headscratcher isn't it?

And most obvious of all for single sex spaces. Given the above, how on Earth to you separate “genuine” trans people from predators and impostors?

And for packaging, why is the word woman erased everywhere, but never the word man? Because if there is a push to remove sex/gender descriptions, why only woman?

@Quaagars , NiceGerbil pretty much summed it up from a trans umbrella point of view. Under the new definitions, that is one of the accepted views and I think for trans women even more so maybe as many are very comfortable with their lady penises.

And of course some are not and may feeling awful about their bodies whatever they do. The trans umbrella is very wide.

Many on this board do not understand this widening of the trans umbrella either. Especially as most people here reject gender completely as a social construct and believe whatever you wear and how you act is irrelevant, but should be accepted.

However, people here are protective of women’s sports (due to the advance of male puberty) and single sex spaces especially because of this widening of the trans umbrella. They also question why someone who is comfortable with their lady penis should be in a single sex space where there are vulnerable women.

It may seem a small thing with the text on the package, but in more and more places the word woman is erased whereas the word man remains. Smear tests are proposed for “cervix havers” (some vulnerable minority groups will not know what this is), but prostate tests are for men. This is why there is a general push back in all areas when the word woman is erased.

I see the standard and the metro are right on board. And the standard even takes the opportunity to throw in a JKR dig. No comments allowed.

I found another one:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/transgender-man-pregnant-second-child-22227559.amp

Here the transman says:

Just because I went from female to male doesn't mean I have a desire to date women or be hyper masculine or even be cis-gender.

I don't have to hate my body or object parts of it to be considered a real man.

I'm lucky enough to have a working uterus and reproductive system that allows me to carry a child and create life so why should I have to reject that part of me just because I'm trans?

Quaagars, I am not a transman and I don't understand why a transman would have a baby. I also don't understand how a transman who has a baby is 'living as a man'.

I did read this article a while ago, though:

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/trans-man-gives-birth-after-using-female-sperm-donor-11897122

In it the transman said:

I don't think pregnancy is the ultimate female experience, therefore it didn't challenge me as a man.

Honestly, if giving birth isn't the ultimate female experience, I don't know what is. I, too, would be interested in a transman's perspective on this.

Well according to stonewall umbrella I'm trans

Oh OK, you keep on doing that banging job I mentioned lol.

If you want to ask trans men specifically then you need to make that clear

I did.
if you're identifying away from being female, surely giving birth or having your womb intact is one of the most womanly things you can have/do?
Pretty clear I'm asking trans men why they would want to do womanly things like give birth
(Whilst at the same time aware noone will probably answer as this is the crap they get!)
Which was my original point

Well according to stonewall umbrella I'm trans.

If you want to ask trans men specifically then you need to make that clear.

What specifically is bollocks about my answer. Trans men have babies. Trans women use their penis in sex. Dysphoria is not a pre-requisite of being trans. It's not complicated.

You asked why trans men have babies. That is why

Yes from a trans man point of view would like to know

Are you a trans man?
I was saying I'd like to know how someone could be a trans man but still wanting to do the one thing that only a female body can do - give birth.
If you're not a trans man, you're doing a banging job proving my point why nobody will ever answer as they get this bollocks thrown out instead.

What's wrong with that answer.

You asked why trans men have babies. That is why.

Do you want to converse or just FFS around the place. Engage with what I've said. There was nothing goady or inaccurate in it.

Oh FFS, and THAT'S why there's never going to be any answer on here except the echo chamber.
As I said, nobody wants to hear anything different, any different experiences, viewpoints.
Even said we're not placed to say and would like to hear other viewpoints but some just can't help selves!
I like hearing different views and experiences, some want to just exist in a pit of "load of blah bollocks! YEAH!" cheerleading.
Which is why nothing ever gets debated/discussed on here as you can never have a different opinion without "huzzah!" or lols.

Short answer.

No it's fine. Transmen having babies or transwoman enjoying their penises is aok and if you're not comfortable you're an old fashioned bigot. Stop policing people's bodies!

The point is that male female and man woman and boy girl are detached from biology.

So you have a sex 'assigned' at birth (rather than observed).

Girls or boys can have periods or erections.

The body is irrelevant, immaterial. A 'social construct'.

Men can give birth, women can have penises.

Linking man/ woman/male/ female with sex organs or different physiology is offensive.

All that matters is how you feel inside. There is no pre-requisite to want to alter your appearance/ body. If you say you are a man/ woman then you are. Full stop. In fact, saying an obvious male wearing a suit with a beard who is 6'5 for eg is transphobic. Policing women's appearance is a terrible thing to do. (Feminism subverted).

All single sex things including prison sport etc should accept declared gender full stop.

Eg male rapists with working penises in women's prisons is fine. They are women if they say so, so cruel to put them in with men. Even if look like men. Rationale. Women commit sex offences too. If there are risks then they should be assessed and dealt with.

Etc etc

I'm still up. What's the question?

The one asked just before your post

if you're identifying away from being female, surely giving birth or having your womb intact is one of the most womanly things you can have/do?

Going by your previous posts maybe not in a position to answer just like I'm not but I'm still curious to know anyway

I'm still up. What's the question?