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Sanitary products for people who menstruate

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jellyandiscream · 04/09/2020 14:33

Sorry for the daily fail link but has anyone seen this? Sanitary products for people who menstruate from Superdrug. What were they thinking?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8697841/Shoppers-ridicule-woke-Superdrug-launches-sanitary-products-people-menstruate.html

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 05/09/2020 22:18

I don't think it needs it. What I find absurd is telling people that these products are for "people who menstruate"; that is as if a packet of sticking plasters felt obliged to tell us they are for "people who are bleeding" or bottled water carried the proud claim "for people who drink water".

DidoLamenting · 05/09/2020 21:47

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

DidoLamenting Did the packaging ever say sanitary products were for women? I don't think so.

Wellllll.... On the website they are all listed under called "Feminine Hygiene", which is probably a bit sex-specific. Or used to be.

I meant the packaging in the shop. It doesn't have the word "women" on it.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 05/09/2020 21:22

(where did that "called" come from, I thought I hadn't typed it)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 05/09/2020 21:22

DidoLamenting
Did the packaging ever say sanitary products were for women? I don't think so.

Wellllll.... On the website they are all listed under called "Feminine Hygiene", which is probably a bit sex-specific. Or used to be.

EyesOpening · 05/09/2020 20:52

@ErrolTheDragon

If they were genuinely concerned about the feelings of people who struggle with the reality of being female, pointing out just how many periods they're likely to have and how many tampons and towels they're likely to get though maybe isn't exactly helpful.
I suspect you're right
NiceGerbil · 05/09/2020 20:10

Thing is a lot of this type of stuff gets blamed on 'feminists'.

Which is unhelpful to say the least.

bellinisurge · 05/09/2020 19:44

They are soooooo desperate to equate gender critical women with looney right wing fascists.
When this nonsense finally comes unstuck it's going be interesting to watch the backpedaling.

DidoLamenting · 05/09/2020 19:32

Call them tampons and sanitary towels and don't bother to say which of the umpty-zillion gender-identities they are for, and the problem goes away. Nobody who doesn't need them is going to buy them except for someone who needs them, in any case

Did the packaging ever say sanitary products were for women? I don't think so.

SerenityNowwwww · 05/09/2020 18:59

Just saw an ad for what used to be called Tena Lady - not just Tena and no sex mentioned Even through the male and female versions would need to be different surely (and Tena Men is on the shelf in the supermarket near me).

Is this new?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/09/2020 18:54

@bellinisurge

I read someone today say that "people who menstruate" is more respectful because saying "women" is disrespectful to women who no longer have periods. And "transphobes" don't think women who no longer have periods are women. As a woman who no longer as periods, that's a load of fucking shit. Just in case you were wondering.
Why do people make up such bollocks

It is a load of fucking shit

I can’t wait for my periods to stop

NiceGerbil · 05/09/2020 18:35

Oh come off it Quagaars.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/09/2020 18:34

If they were genuinely concerned about the feelings of people who struggle with the reality of being female, pointing out just how many periods they're likely to have and how many tampons and towels they're likely to get though maybe isn't exactly helpful.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 05/09/2020 18:29

Call them tampons and sanitary towels and don't bother to say which of the umpty-zillion gender-identities they are for, and the problem goes away. Nobody who doesn't need them is going to buy them except for someone who needs them, in any case.

Or not more than once. It's money wasted if you have no use for them.

Boots seem to have managed this with their non-sex-labelled tampons, and so have Tampax though the latter are on dodgy ground with their claim "Tampax Compak tampons have been gynaecologically tested" it is probably triggering in some way or other for someone somewhere.

bellinisurge · 05/09/2020 18:26

I read someone today say that "people who menstruate" is more respectful because saying "women" is disrespectful to women who no longer have periods. And "transphobes" don't think women who no longer have periods are women.
As a woman who no longer as periods, that's a load of fucking shit. Just in case you were wondering.

TorkTorkBam · 05/09/2020 18:22

I agree Milly, this particular action helps nobody.

It just pretends to, which I think is worse. If I were trans I would be insulted by this packaging wording change.

Once again females are given a token gesture to shut them up without anything materially beneficial being done to help.

MillyMollyFarmer · 05/09/2020 18:19

Let's help them out a bit.

I don’t think this helps anyone so no, I don’t be emotionally manipulated into accepting regressive things like this.

EyesOpening · 05/09/2020 18:15

@Quaagars

No I didn't miss it, I just didn't feel the need to answer or comment on it as I thought "yeah, good point" Grin Then again I'm not trans, so I don't presume to know what it feels like to go buy them every month.
Grin

I would presume that they’d prefer to go to men’s aisle

TorkTorkBam · 05/09/2020 18:15

I care about women and girls.

In this instance I don't want to focus on what appears to be the male TRA agenda of erasing women. Even if that triggered the Superdrug change.

There are teenagers who would call themselves afab and queer/trans/non-binary who find it distressing to buy sanitary products in a shop. I would be fully behind changes to how sanitary products are marketed and presented to make those females feel more comfortable. I happen to think those changes would likely have wider benefits.

I would rather have a go at Superdrug for pretending to help while actually doing fuck all to help (and pissing off a load of other females). This does not have to be a TRA vs GC issue.

Let's help the girls who have body issues and being female issues. Let's not just shout at them not to be embarrassed it is perfectly natural. That kind of older woman advice never helped us when we were embarrassed as teenagers did it?

You can't expect females aged say 14-24 to give no fucks at all about what people think in the same way as females aged say 54-64. They are easily mortified. Trans or not. Let's help them out a bit.

Quaagars · 05/09/2020 18:14

Of course it's sexist to say that changing the packaging would mean to a box of chocolates or shoes
Because that's what women like, isn't it. And pink and flowers and giggling and prosecco and never messing their hair up

If I was meaning what you're suggesting, (which I wasn't) - how does this even begin to make sense when we're talking about disguising a box of sanitary products as something so trans men would feel more at ease buying?
"I know! Let's disguise it as something some people think is a Very Womanly Thing, that'll make trans men feel more included!"
Erm......

Quaagars · 05/09/2020 18:09

I wasn't even on about stereotypes, sexist, really not sure why we jumped to there!
Just items we could disguise sanitary products as like somebody had suggested upthread.

runningpram · 05/09/2020 18:06

Ive no real issue with this at all, as long as Superdrug do the same for shaving products etc

Quaagars · 05/09/2020 18:05

What an incredibly sexist comment

Eh? Literally the first items that popped into my head.
Are chocolates and shoes for females only now or something?
If so, since when?!
OK, if they're too sterotypical of what a woman likes (really wasn't that deep as my teens say) would something "less girly" be more appropriate (whatever the fuck that is)
A bag of spanners?
Something neutral like a food item maybe that's safer?

LolaSmiles · 05/09/2020 18:03

Nobody's ever stopped DH buying my sanitary products or stopped me to check I was buying sanitary products for me, or am I shopping in the wrong place?

We could simply not say who the tampons are for and just say 'tampons'. That would be lovely and inclusive of anyone with female biology who has a need for menstrual products because your average biological man isn't going to become confused and buy himself 6 packs by accident.Grin
Somehow I doubt that would be considered acceptable as this seems to be part of a bigger picture where the aim is eroding women, not inclusion.

NiceGerbil · 05/09/2020 18:03

Of course it's sexist to say that changing the packaging would mean to a box of chocolates or shoes.

Because that's what women like, isn't it. And pink and flowers and giggling and prosecco and never messing their hair up.

That comment is incredibly sexist.

TorkTorkBam · 05/09/2020 18:01

@NiceGerbil

'If they really wanted to hell they would make boxes of tampons look less obviously like a box of tampons

Like make them look like a box of chocolates, or a pair of shoes?
That'll just make even MORE confusion lol'

What an incredibly sexist comment.

Not surprised.

Why is that sexist? Apparently transmen have said they feel very dysphoric when buying sanitary products. To reduce this, Superdrug have removed the word woman. I do not believe this is going to seriously diminish the dysphoric reaction of a female who identifies as trans or non-binary compared to the impact of going over to the feminine hygiene section, picking a box of tampons, carrying them to the till and paying for them. It just doesn't seem like Superdrug are really thinking about how to help afab people with dysphoria. Packaging and location would surely help more.
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