Online Debate Event - Julie Bindel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Kehinde Andrews, Billy Bragg,

Billy Bragg's been such a disappointment. A singer who promotes himself as a man of the people and for the workers, supporting working class women being sacked

Indeed - does anyone have the tweet where BB said it was perfectly acceptable for women to be sacked for stating men can’t be women?

And he’s going to argue:

What we are witnessing is activism by and on behalf of marginalised groups who are seeking to redress the structural inequalities that have historically held them back...The principal critics of this activism are the privileged elites who, while claiming to be defending free speech, can’t tolerate criticism of their own cherished views.

What an utter MRA hypocrite.

It's on 22nd of September so there's plenty of time for Billy to pull out.

(Assuming he's clever enough to realise that he's not clever enough to debate with the likes of AHA and JB.)

ItalianHat - I think that was Stokely Carmichael, not Malcolm X.

Fantastic. Genuinely can't wait to hear these two brilliant women outargue, and outwit these two men (especially the insufferable Billy Bragg). Bring it on.

I’ll be interested to see what Prof. Andrews has to say. Last time I heard him speak ( on diversity in academia) he said he’d rather read Malcolm X than Kant. Both were pretty nasty about women, although I think it was only Malcolm X who theorised that a woman’s place in the revolution was on her back.

Yes, it's the old adage about playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks all the pieces over, craps all over the board, then struts around with its chest feathers puffed out thinking it's won.

This is an absolutely perfect summation of the way trans activists behave in any kind of debate.

This looks interesting! I wonder if 'hate incidents' will be discussed? (as opposed to hate crimes)

Ooh. This should be excellent. Thanks for posting OP.

Side issue but I've been signing up for so many webinars recently. The live meetings I have been to have been great, and the chance to chat to other women, and absorb the atmosphere is a joy, but so often one can't get to them for reasons of travel or childcare or whatever, so having access to online meetings is a really important new pleasure.

Those men give no shits about women's opinions. The women could win the argument and the men would walk out of there still believing that they, the men, are right and the women are hysterical fools.

This event poses low risk to their egos and their sm following.

My guess is he thinks he can win the argument because he is up against two women and assumes he's cleverer than they are.

Yes, that's what I thought too. I hope he gets an absolutely roasting, he is such a twat!

I can’t stand Kehinde Andrews, he’s so utterly patronising. The combination of him and Bragg would lead to me just wanting to throw something at the Wifi router.

I don’t need to hear any more of their opinions - I hear echos of them every time I turn on Channel 4 nears.

oh hes a serial blocker of women. it took me by surprise how much he hates us.
look forward to the debate, thanks op.

Billy Bragg's been such a disappointment. A singer who promotes himself as a man of the people and for the workers, supporting working class women being sacked.

Should be interesting. Andrews is one of the Guardian’s pet academics, of the sort that gives contemporary academe such a bad image.

Have regained some respect for Bragg seeing he's chosen to do that.

I haven't. If he wanted respect, he shouldn't have blocked so many people who politely disagreed with him. My guess is he thinks he can win the argument because he is up against two women and assumes he's cleverer than they are.

Wrong!

Have regained some respect for Bragg seeing he's chosen to do that. People are v much allowed to disagreeing with me on significant things as long as they can put their case and don't just pretend that everyone has always held their position, anyone who disagrees is a bigot and there's no debate to have.

This event looks fab.

I look forward to Bragg mansplaining to AHA. All the popcorn.

Oh god, yes. AHA is properly scary. Intelligent, eloquent, knows her own mind, doesn't take any shit. I think (hope) she will wipe the floor with Bragg, the misogynistic little pipsqueak that he is.

Can't see Bragg beating the ten count after this:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Au77sbBnAa8

I'll definitely be there to cheer on the women. Isn't it amazing how it's men against women? The men no doubt all fired up to explain why it's all fine and there's no need to worry about freedom... Can't wait for this.

I wonder if there'll be some last minute drop outs when the men realise how outclassed they are? Will BB claim 'no debate' in order to get out of it?

I'll put a tenner on AHA (though the ref may stop it early).