Co op

And hopefully other organisations will take note of Neil's forthright approach.

I do like andrew neil though

Yeah, I like the Co-op. I used to work in County Durham, which has a load of godforsaken - well, actually, mine-forsaken - villages with no shops, no bus service, nothing apart from the Co-op, which was always there, providing at any rate a reasonable supply of not entirely horrible food.

And the in-store bakery is fab.

DS worked in our local Co-op to save for a holiday before uni.

They paid well over minimum wage and did great staff reductions (on booze too). The staff were lovely too. It was a green local one rather than a blue national one, though.

My co op is shite but dead close

It’s full of bins of horrible stuff and you can hardly shuffle round it

Staff say it’s dreadful to work in and they can’t seem to keep staff

It really needs a makeover.

Loads of folks who are elderly use it as they can’t access big supermarket s.

They very rarely sell good vegetables like cabbage and cauliflower or carrots

It’s like bags of salad which go off soon as you look at them

Seems like they have lost their way in servicing local communities

I love the Co-op! I am so angry that some coward in their PR department has let it down like this. I’m sure this is a big thrill for Lisa.

Oh bloody, fucking hell. I'm a town planner with an interest in sustainable transport. So I follow a lot of men on Twitter. And, my God, they're all out tonight, patting them on the back for being on Co-op's side when they thought it was going to categorise discussions of gender as "hate", and foaming at the mouth now that it's not. And spitting feathers at me when I say that gender isn't real. Wankers. They just don't know how visible their own bloody Y chromosomes are, do they? I guess that's why they don't notice them on a bloke called Lisa who demands that a massive company changes its advertising strategy because she doesn't agree with something published alongside their adverts. Wankers, the lot of them. Rant over.

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Totally. I hope so.
I think the immediate damage that careless Twittering can do really needs to be brought to heel by reputable companies.

I'm sure they will Beamur, but it will make a lot of big companies think about who is running their Twitter account

Excellent sport! They really didn't see that coming. I have refused to shop at the 'ethical' co op since they refused to pay British farmers more than the price of production for milk. It appears that ethical and fair trade only count when it's not in this country. Seeing them getting their arse kicked has made my evening.

I think the grown ups at the co op will be smoothing things over with the Spectator

Excellent. This should be in the paper tomorrow then. Does anyone have a share token?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spectator-bans-co-op-from-advertising-in-editorial-freedom-row-2g5qqkqfg

Times running the article. The comments are great.

Don't think the Spectator will, think they've made their point.

It's about time we got real instead of getting depressed.

I'm not sure we will ever combat misogyny without a complete re-think. I say that because we are now going backwards and having done all this stuff in the 60's and 70's that means we may not be tackling this issue in the right way.

Not sure what that re-think is but I sure do know it's needed.

I don't care who is on my side, I just want action and I'll take whatever's going

Coop replied to Andrew Neil saying they have not withdrawn advertising from the spectator.

Yep, Ova. Depressing. Much like Asda's immediate turnaround when the Baroness got involved. I mean, she's great, but it's depressing that ordinary people count for fuck all for these companies. Especially ordinary people of the female variety.

Very true @OvaHere

It's interesting how one powerful man takes them to task and they backtrack. Thousands of women regularly take these woke brands to task over misogyny and rarely do they listen.

Oh I see

"That’s escalated quickly and we want to set the record straight. The tweet sent yesterday was incorrect and does not reflect our advertising position. Our policy supports editorial freedom and you can read more about it here: coop.uk/3bs0jhB ^Fi

twitter.com/coopuk/status/1301880790700220419?s=20

I wonder if the co op will clarify their position publicly?

they've changed their minds now and said that it was all a mistake - they stick with their stated policy - phew!

The Coop tweet that Andrew quote tweeted is gone

The immediate capitulation is what I find the most confusing. (and yes, well done to Andrew Neil for doing what Editors should!)

If I were more conspiracy-minded, I might think that these things were set up - that it was pre-arranged and staged for the public to see, pour encourager les autres.

Surely taking a couple of days to actually investigate an accusation, or a few weeks months (years!) for an enquiry would be reasonable. It's the way they apologise and change behaviour within hours that I just find so unbelievably odd.