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The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID

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SunsetBeetch · 03/09/2020 20:11

I thought of doing this thread a while ago, and the thread about GMB has just reminded me.

This is to collect examples of people companies, etc who have strongly supportedself ID and spouted off about "bigoted" "terfs" who have then shown themselves to be hypocritical/misogynistic/downright dangerous.

Please feel free to add your own examples!

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mrshoho · 18/06/2022 20:55

www.live5news.com/2021/01/15/charleston-man-accused-sending-explicit-image-charged-with-soliciting-minor/

His life partner/roomy at the time... Rachel Mckinnon/Dr Veronica Ivy.

A word to the kids, the trans kids whose parents maybe don’t support them as much as we would hope. Unfortunately, this is too common. I want to give you some help, though. I want you to know that it’s okay to walk away from unsupportive or disrespectful, or even abusive, parents. And I want to give you hope that you can find what we call your glitter family. Your queer family. We are out there, and the relationships that we make in our glitter families are just as real, just as meaningful as our blood families. Veronica Ivy, activist formerly known as Rachel McKinnon,

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2022 19:14

Reduxx is an excellent source.

Here is more about the teacher above.

reduxx.info/teacher-who-railed-against-terfs-arrested-on-child-sexual-exploitation-charges/

IncompleteSenten · 18/06/2022 13:46

Conflictedunicorn · 18/06/2022 11:07

It’s almost like there’s a link between those who want to convince children their bodies are not as important as their inner feelings, remove safeguarding, lower the age at which children can make decisions about themselves, and keep children in a childlike state using puberty blockers and people who are obsessed with showing porn to children. These people seem to have a vested interest in the above, and scream very loudly at anyone who objects.

Indeed.

It's a mystery isn't it?

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2022 13:34

Deliriumoftheendless · 18/06/2022 12:40

There’s something interesting there that it’s stated that accusations of pedophilia are right wing. We have also seen this stated on these boards. But it’s EVERYONE’S duty to call out CSA/grooming etc. who gains when those who are politically polarised buy into “it’s right wing to call out pedophiles”?

Yes, it's really troubling

Deliriumoftheendless · 18/06/2022 12:40

There’s something interesting there that it’s stated that accusations of pedophilia are right wing. We have also seen this stated on these boards. But it’s EVERYONE’S duty to call out CSA/grooming etc. who gains when those who are politically polarised buy into “it’s right wing to call out pedophiles”?

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 18/06/2022 12:01

Threads like this make Mumsnet an excellent resource for researchers wanting the facts about genderism. No propaganda, lies or fake stats. All published evidence. Thanks to everyone who adds to it.

Transcrimeuk.com is another useful site.

Conflictedunicorn · 18/06/2022 11:07

It’s almost like there’s a link between those who want to convince children their bodies are not as important as their inner feelings, remove safeguarding, lower the age at which children can make decisions about themselves, and keep children in a childlike state using puberty blockers and people who are obsessed with showing porn to children. These people seem to have a vested interest in the above, and scream very loudly at anyone who objects.

ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2022 11:02

...I'm sure you guessed correctly.

The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
ScreamingMeMe · 18/06/2022 11:01

Man who berated JK Rowling as a bigot and supports transistioning children turns out to be....

The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
The Dark Side of Some of Those Supporting Self ID
ScreamingMeMe · 12/04/2022 09:19

Yes Challenor and Bradley are both in the thread.

Articus · 11/04/2022 23:39

It might have been said here but the Challenor (father and son) claimed to create the Terf blocker if I remember rightly. There were also comments about the Guides policy being changed due to their influence. Then the father was given the longest sentence for abusing and raping an 8th year old and the son was embroiled as he used his father as campaign agent when he knew about the accusations.

The other Jess Bradley infamous input to the GRC consultation and his flashing pics at work.

Shame on them

DrBlackbird · 11/04/2022 23:12

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ScreamingMeMe · 11/04/2022 22:05

[quote DontLikeCrumpets]@SunsetBeetch

what is GMB? thx[/quote]
They are a union.

Mentioned here:

GMB cancels Q&A on Mumsnet following pressure from TRAs alleging transphobia on the site:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3920159-GMB-Statement-on-transphobia

GMB deemed institutionally sexist:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4012760-GMB-Deemed-Institutionally-sexist

ScreamingMeMe · 11/04/2022 22:00

Crispin Blunt. Thinks GC women provoke trans people into assaulting them.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4048248-Crispin-Blunt-Strident-womens-rights-campaigners-provoked-trans-people-to-be-angry-and-confrontational

Ordered to apologise for breach of parliamentary rules over attempt to make secret deal on self ID

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4185487-Crispin-Blunt-MP-ordered-to-apologise-for-breach-of-parliamentary-rules-over-attempt-to-make-secret-deal-on-self-ID

Reported Lisa Townsend , Police and Crime Commissioner for Surrey to rhe Police and Crime panel because she just won't shut up about her gender critical views, and she retweeted JK Rowling

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4456813-why-did-anyone-vote-for-Crispin-Blunt

And now, he has tweeted in support of a fellow MP, who has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a 15 year old boy.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4527630-even-by-Crispins-standards?watched=1&msgid=116559041#116559041

DontLikeCrumpets · 10/04/2022 04:47

@SunsetBeetch

what is GMB? thx

BOOTS52 · 09/04/2022 16:52

I did not even know that this happened in Ireland and the law was passed as no doubt thousands other did as all kept hush hush in the media. There was a story about a young trans-woman named Barbie Kardashian who had beat up his mother and then nearly strangled a carer who was driving a car, Barbie was in back seat and used legs to strangle the driver and nearly gouged her eye out and was put in a women's jail in Ireland even though had a history of extreme violence. How is this all kept hush hush and ordinary people do not know about it all. I couldn't care less what anyone wears, etc but women's and female spaces should be safe, toilets, refugees, prisons, changing rooms, even in hospitals not safe as a young woman was sexually assaulted here in Ireland in a female only wing of a hospital. Just shocking this law was passed and hope Scotland does not pass the law also as just makes women unsafe.

ScreamingMeMe · 06/04/2022 11:47

[quote SunsetBeetch]Middlesbrough Councillor David Smith wrote to the Mayor to make all toilets "gender neutral".

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3614999-Councillor-wants-Mayor-to-make-all-toilets-gender-neutral

Middlesbrough Councillor David Smith charged with "child sex offences".

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3639135-Middlesbrough-councillor-accused-of-child-sex-offences

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3639655-councillor-charged[/quote]
David Smith is now on trail.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4522776-Ex-councillor-on-trial-for-child-sex-crimes

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2022 21:50

What a depressing thread. So many men in power removing safeguarding while being abusers.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/03/2022 18:04

John Bercow, ex Speaker of the House of Commons and mate of Edward Lord.

Ranted about 'terfs' to Pink News.

Has now been exposed as a dreadful workplace bully.

Both discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3298016-John-Bercows-rant-about-Gender-Critical-women?pg=2

PandorasMailbox · 01/09/2021 15:09

@EsmaCannonball

There should be some kind of law where the police immediately search the hard drive of anyone advocating mixed-sex facilities.
Some of us have been suggesting this for years, but have been roundly ignored by the police and every other organisation because #thisneverhappens.
EsmaCannonball · 01/09/2021 14:50

There should be some kind of law where the police immediately search the hard drive of anyone advocating mixed-sex facilities.

Helleofabore · 01/09/2021 13:16

PandorasMailbox

Thank you PandorasMailbox.

That is a stark reminder.

PandorasMailbox · 01/09/2021 13:15

It's a hugely disturbing graphic and there are more names that can be added to it now. It'll no doubt become a lot larger before all this is over.

FrancescaContini · 01/09/2021 13:13

@PandorasMailbox

I think it's this one *@Helleofabore*
Thank you for posting this
FrancescaContini · 01/09/2021 13:11

@Suffrajester

Aimee himself is openly a "babyfur" ie has a fetish for pretending to be a juvenile anthropomorphic animal. Much like David had a fetish for pretending to be a child. Not illegal in itself if it's genuinely purely fantasy, but you have to wonder how someone develops that interest in the first place, and when his dad was found acting it out by torturing an actual child and he did nothing, it's very suspect. And posting about it publicly I'd argue takes it out of the realm of fantasy anyway, it's attaching your own name to it and putting it in the public sphere, where it can be linked to you by children using services you're involved in and they then see it as normal. That reminds me: James Makings, the NSPCC rubber suit wanker (literally). He's another one to add to the list.
Jesus fucking Christ.

Thank you for this thread. It’s really important.