Toilets for all

I’m not 100% happy with them as they have bands and beer some nights and I would not like to be the only woman waiting in that situation, although I doubt it would be as bad as a nightclub.

It’s shit that so many places have just stuck a sign on the ladies saying “anyone” and this seems like the best we can expect.

Michelle, I was pretty surprised to read somewhere that it's normal toilet etiquette for men who use cubicles for a pee to leave the door open. I don't know the truth of that, I don't use the gents. But yes, another arguement for keeping toilets single sex.

This is something you have in common with most trans women.

I should think I probably have it in common with most decent people regardless of their sex or gender.

The problem is that in mixed sex spaces, even with floor to ceiling cubicles, some males will behave like this. This shouldn't be something females are compelled to suck up for the wider benefit of people born male. And some females will find this far more threatening than others, with some unable to use spaces at all under these conditions. Which is why female only spaces need to be provided in addition to whatever other facilities are provided.

Bear with me for a moment.
If we're heading towards a future where all humans do all activities in gender and sex non-specific ways (because absolutely nothing defines us in any way except our thoughts) then surely urinals are transphobic/non-gender neutral.

A public sanitary device that requires a specific type of genital (or prosthetic) to use sounds out of step, even archaic. Perhaps even a touch hate-crimey.

Is it time for these relics to be removed? Men (sorry, penis owners), who repeatedly assure the world that they simply don't mind who is next to them in a toilet and women shouldn't either, will surely be happy to switch completely to floor to ceiling toilet cubicals. The resultant queues will allow them time to feel delightfully equal.

We have some toilets in our indoor market that are enclosed cubicles with sanitary bins in and when you come out there’s a communal sink (circular with about 4 water and soap dispensers, not really taps) and two hand dryers. If it has to be mixed these feel pretty safe and good. Dunno how that would work elsewhere though.

I have endometriosis. A couple of the days of the month, I bleed like a burst dam. I often have blood on my fingers/hand after inserting a tampon I bleed that much. Even wiping with a tissue doesn't get rid of the blood stains. I really wouldn't feel comfortable using a sink to wash my hands off with a man standing next to me.

@MichelleofzeResistance

"I don't want to be in an enclosed space with a male demonstrating major issues around boundaries and socially appropriate behaviour, with his genitals naked in his hand."

This is something you have in common with most trans women.

Why don't we just make ALL public toilets individual floor-to-ceiling contained units with washbasins, plus some larger units for the disabled, people with young kids etc.

Then we don't have to have this argument about who is allowed into what toilet. Ever again

We have some toilets in our indoor market that are enclosed cubicles with sanitary bins in and when you come out there’s a communal sink (circular with about 4 water and soap dispensers, not really taps) and two hand dryers. If it has to be mixed these feel pretty safe and good. Dunno how that would work elsewhere though.

Was at a mixed sex loo recently with floor to ceiling completely contained units. Fine.

Save for the bloke peeing with the door wide open behind him.

Urge fought to explain to him that I'm sure he has a very lovely penis, but no one needs to see it and that's why it's basic social skills that we teach very young children how to be socially appropriate with their bodies and toilet training skills.

I don't want to be in an enclosed space with a male demonstrating major issues around boundaries and socially appropriate behaviour, with his genitals naked in his hand.

Until men all sit down to piss I really don't want to be sharing a toilet with them, especially after a few drinks.

Yikes! I wouldn’t be comfortable with that and I’m sure DH wouldn’t either!!
I was at our local leisure centre with mixed sex changing and an older guy walked in and realised that there were women in there and panicked and nearly ran out again. I don’t think the great British public are ready to deal with mixed sex toilet arrangements.

I don't like this but the only positive thing I can say about it is that at least it's not 'men's toilets' and 'women's and everyone who feels they want to use the women's toilets' like so many other places are.

Although I don't like the idea of this, I do like the way it sidesteps the problem of people who would be unwelcome in the ladies getting their validation by using the ladies knowing that no one will dare stop them.

But ultimately, no. This isn't fair on women. We should have our own toilets.

Were the toilet cubicles floor to ceiling? That set up would put me off visiting that restuarant again.