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More “inclusive” female health

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jcurve · 27/08/2020 17:07

Saw this posted on Facebook by www.theendometriosissummit.com/

I recently had 3 hours of surgery for this debilitating condition affecting 10% of women. It’s mangled my very female pelvic anatomy and severely compromised my fertility by attacking my very female ovaries and rendering my very female Fallopian tubes useless.

I’m bemused that despite doctors telling me for years that my painful & heavy periods were “just part of being a woman”, my poor uterus is just now a social construct.

Are we seriously not even allowed to own the really shitty bits of being female?

“Opening an email this morning and seeing a webinar on women with endometriosis left us confused.

Endometriosis has no gender.

Some reasons why we say people with endometriosis-

The amazing Heather Reich Edwards taught us that organs don’t actually have a gender. You may think a uterus is female and a scrotum is male but those are applied and assumed constructs. Something like a road or a glass isnt male or female its the construct you apply to it. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

Trans (and yes the word is trans not trans men or trans females as SE Frank taught us at the Endo Summit Workshop) have endometriosis.

Not everyone identifies as male or as female, as their given gender at birth, or even as any gender. Not to mention even people born without a uterus can have endometriosis.

It is time to be inclusive and welcoming to all with endometriosis. Saying people with endometriosis vs women with endometriosis ensures that the entire community is represented.

The Endometriosis Summit supports inclusivity. This is why we have included Gender and Menstruation workshops, panels on LBBTQAI and trans endometriosis at our conferences.

Especially for those with a big voice in the community it is time to welcome everyone with endometriosis.”

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ErrolTheDragon · 27/08/2020 17:55

“Opening an email this morning and seeing a webinar on women with endometriosis left us confused.

I don't believe they were actually even slightly confused - except maybe at the temerity of some women daring to not adopt their idiocies.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 27/08/2020 17:55

Also,
[[Trans (and yes the word is trans not trans men or trans females as SE Frank taught us at the Endo Summit Workshop) have endometriosis.
]]

Eh? "Trans" on it's own? Isn't that a bit reductive and othering?

Nuffaluff · 27/08/2020 17:42

Too much stupid.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 27/08/2020 17:29

What horseshit. Endometriosis destroyed my life because I'm female, not because of my feelings of gender.

I personally don't care if they say "women, trans men and non binary AFAB" or whatever, to describe people who have endometriosis. But please don't remove the word woman.

SoManyActivities · 27/08/2020 17:27

You may think a uterus is female and a scrotum is male but those are applied and assumed constructs. Something like a road or a glass isnt male or female its the construct you apply to it. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

Wuuuuhhhhhh?! Confused

2020Wumben · 27/08/2020 17:25

@JellySlice

Not to mention even people born without a uterus can have endometriosis.

How?

There have been about a dozen reported cases in men so I think that is what being referred to. But who knows when you don't use clear language to make your point
jcurve · 27/08/2020 17:24

Thanks @2020Wumben. It went well, just wasn’t prepared for the recovery which isn’t as instant as the support group makes out! Hope you’re doing ok.

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JellySlice · 27/08/2020 17:23

Not to mention even people born without a uterus can have endometriosis.

How?

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/08/2020 17:21

You may think a uterus is female and a scrotum is male but those are applied and assumed constructs. Something like a road or a glass isnt male or female its the construct you apply to it. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

Anyone spouting ignorant, offensive shite like this needs to keep WOMEN'S health issues out of their fucking mouths.

As if any sane person would take advice or treatment from a 'professional' that believes this bullshit.

Sorry for the swearing. Just sick to my back teeth of women and our sex based health issues being shat all over by pathetic virtue signallers.

2020Wumben · 27/08/2020 17:15

Sorry to hear about your surgery @jcurve. I hope it has went well and you are recovering ok

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 27/08/2020 17:15

Organs don't have a gender because organs aren't sentient and therefore don't have feelings or identities.

2020Wumben · 27/08/2020 17:14

I have just read this horse shit. A uterus being female is a social construct?? Have you read the comments with mental gymnastics to try and figure out what about the inclusive version of the 1 in 10 women statistic and don't you know cismen get it too. Oh the rage- from a support group for a women's health condition! Angry

ThinEndoftheWedge · 27/08/2020 17:13

Endometriosis and Pelvic Pain care must be inclusive to everyone regardless of age, race, sexual orientation, gender, or socioeconomic status.

But not inclusive of sex = only women and girls.

Saying people with endometriosis vs women with endometriosis ensures that the entire community is represented

The entire community - except women and girls who are the only ones who suffer from this.

Men and boys by definition are excluded.

Not ‘200 million people’. They’ve halved the incidence. It’s 200 million women and girls.

Morons.

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