More “inclusive” female health

and yes the word is trans not trans men or trans females

'Men' and 'females'. I guess the authors figure that the battle for 'women' is won and now they're coming for the purely sex-based term. FFS.

Like pp said

All mammals know what male and female are.
Humans would have known before they developed language although I imagine words for this would be some of the first.

The words are a construct. The sexes exist whether they are named or not.

Talk about arse about face.

Naw no need for blah blah.

Sometimes people are just stupid despite their education

Just stupid

As far as I can see, they're not a particularly well qualified physiotherapist, but they do have some special interests:

'She is currently leading a research team to assess transgender pelvic health needs and offers a LGBTQIA affirming, kink informed, trauma informed, and sex positive environment'

pelvicrehab.com/practitioner/heather-edwards-pt/

When I google Heather Reich Edwards I don't get any clear answers. Why would anybody take their word about endometriosis, or anything else? Surely, if they're not a prominent specialist in gynaecology their opinion is totally invalid?

The amazing Heather Reich Edwards taught us that organs don’t actually have a gender. You may think a uterus is female and a scrotum is male but those are applied and assumed constructs. Something like a road or a glass isnt male or female its the construct you apply to it. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

Even though the whole thing is quite horrifying, this bit did actually make me laugh. It's just so ridiculous, and so offensive as well, no one outside of the batshit bubble these people are in can believe this, but this kind of utter shite is where it all leads.

Also, we keep being told 'duh, of course no one thinks that biological sex isn't real' - but these wallys are saying just that aren't they? Is 'male and female' about gender or sex or what?

'Menstruation has been historically categorized as feminine – a function of the female body that affects women'

I can't think of anything less 'feminine' than periods.

Feminity dictates that women are weak fainters who don't shit, fart, bellow with laughter, sweat etc etc

Why do people even have the time to dream this shit up? I know let's wish I had a horrible painful disease that those women get...

And someone should tell them that in other languages a glass and a road are gendered. Mind. Blown.

Rather than coin a new word, they simply appropriated an existing word: endometriosis.

I'm no expert on endometriosis but I thought the whole point was that it relates to the endometrium - of the uterus. Leave aside those rare female DSD without a uterus cases, but the male cases involving other tissues have nothing to do with endometrial tissue even if the behaviour of the disease is somewhat similar. So it should be named after whatever male tissue has a propensity to behave in this way.

Something like a road or a glass isnt male or female its the construct you apply to it. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

If some roads produced blood every month, and some didn't, I think we would try and work out why, and we might come up with a word to classify the different kinds of road. Just take a moment to let that sink in.

Endometriosis has no gender.

No, but the people who have endometriosis have a sex - female - and the disease is often ignored because as you say OP, female pain is often written off as normal.

This seems to come from a talk called "equality in menstruation" at the summit they refer to:

"1030-1200 Equality in Menstruation Frankie (S. E. Frank) Madison, Wisconsin; Menstruation has been historically categorized as feminine – a function of the female body that affects women. Trans and genderqueer people face this biological function as a social signal of gender/sex identity."

This is so regressive. Everyone knows that menstruation only affects women. Nobody can escape that. You can escape the idea that your identity is somehow defined by the fact that you menstruate, however, instead their solution is to pretend that menstruation could happen to anyone.

It's incredibly insulting to women. These people are unbelievable.

Just take a moment to let that sink in.

That's a 'let that PENETRATE' moment, isn't it?

Just take a moment to let that sink in. It has and it is shitthink.

Recover well jcurve

OP, . I'm really sorry, and hope you recover fully, very soon.

Also odd how words are so fucking ephemeral and constructed that they are practically meaningless. Yet if the wrong person uses the wrong word that is literally fucking violence and can shortly have you put in prison.

Bloody words. What a mess.

Oh ffs, op as a fellow sufferer you have my sympathies, endo is shit. As if there isn’t enough lack of fucking support and diagnostic efficiency for such a debilitating disease we now have to dilute the little understanding there is with this horse shit. Fuck that for a bag of chips

You may think a uterus is feminine and a scrotum is masculine but those are applied and assumed constructs*

Bluntly, these people have confused the word with the thing. The word was invented to point to the thing. They have decided that because the word was invented, ergo the thing was invented too. Fucking idiots. The most basic failure of logic I think I've ever seen.

What is wrong with these people?

Surely no-one is barking enough to think this in real life?

Do they think we have all lost the plot?

If I call noses washing machines and say that that is fine because words are just social constructs and everything is just a social construct, then language becomes fundamentally meaningless and cannot be used for communication any more.

I mean, sure, if they want to have a private language, spoken and understood by only a few people, in which there is no word for 'woman' but the category 'man' can cover women where it feels like it, and where noses mean washing machines and washing machines mean noses, then go ahead.

Just realise that when conversing with the rest of the world, you need to use the same language we all speak. And you certainly can't get the hump when people use language in the normal way and are not bilingual in your funny, made-up, private language.

I doubt they sincerely believe that, it's just postmodernist wanky words.

What do people who believe that scrotums aren’t male and uteruses aren’t female..... what do they think male and female is????

You may think a uterus is feminine and a scrotum is masculine but those are applied and assumed constructs.

The ancient Greeks certainly thought the uterus to be feminine. It was the seat of that feminine emotion considered to be unique to women: hysteria. Hence hysterectomy, hysteroscopy, etc.

There have been about a dozen reported cases in men so I think that is what being referred to.

I read about that. IIRC the tissues growing in inappropriate locations were not uterine tissues, not bits of endometrium. They were tissues of other organs in the men's bodies, responding to the men's hormones appropriately for those organs, but inappropriately for the location. The medics or researchers had no word for this. Rather than coin a new word, they simply appropriated an existing word: endometriosis.

It seems possible that a woman with XX chromosomes (or some other combination that does not include a Y), plus a DSD, might not develop a uterus but instead have only endometrial tissue. She would be a person born without a uterus, who has endometriosis. She would still be a woman with endometriosis.

You may think a uterus is female and a scrotum is male but those are applied and assumed constructs.

No, they are not. They are simple biological facts pertaining to mammals.m

oops. bold fail.

Still, what happened to transmen and transwomen as terms?