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Ann Sinnott is asking for clarity on guidance for the Equality Act

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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 26/08/2020 15:36

around the guidance for the Equality Act 2010, and is crowdfunding for a judicial review. Thought I ought to spread the word.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/08/2020 19:52

Why on earth is this any responsibility of women??

Just out of interest.

MichelleofzeResistance · 27/08/2020 19:35

Not sure what who uses what loo has to do with whether a law should be creatively reinterpreted by a lobby group in their own interests to say something other than what the law states.

Datun · 27/08/2020 19:35

Just out of interest, what DO you expect trans women to do when they need a pee and the only loos available are single sex?

Why on earth is this any responsibility of women??

Clymene · 27/08/2020 19:34

Have done a bit of digging. I'm so grateful for Ann and the wonderful crew of intelligent and diligent people she has assembled around her.

I have been dismayed by the misinterpretation- some wilful, some not - of the provisions of the EA to protect women only spaces and delighted that finally someone is standing up to the noxious creep of mixed sex facilities.

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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 27/08/2020 19:34

@PearPickingPorky

I have tried to share this numerous times on Twitter and every time it either doesn't show the thumbnail embedded, or stays in the "drafts" and won't post.

Hmm. How convenient.

Yes, nothing would surprise me about twitter's behaviour around this. Cf JKR's vanishing like.

It seems to allow me to retweet Ann's posts around it if you want to do that. I know you shouldn't have to, though Hmm

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MichelleofzeResistance · 27/08/2020 19:32

Just out of interest, what DO you expect trans women to do when they need a pee and the only loos available are single sex?

Just out of interest, what DO you expect female people who cannot share mixed sex spaces to do when they need a pee (or a smear test, or a refuge, or a hospital ward) and the only ones available are gender neutral?

Third spaces are the obvious answer, to equally respect all needs. Enforcing better behaviour from male people to be inclusive of all male people would also probably help. Because otherwise you are excluding some female people from any provision at all, in order to provide male people with the choice of all the provisions.

Datun · 27/08/2020 19:29

At this rate, she'll have reached her target by the end of the weekend. 💪

BlackeyedSusan · 27/08/2020 19:27

PPPorky.

How odd. Seems a bit too much of a coincidence

BlackeyedSusan · 27/08/2020 19:25

And yes it does seem like a tax on womanhood, but you lot have been doing a lot more than me.

BlackeyedSusan · 27/08/2020 19:24

It is great that it is creeping up.

MiladyRenata · 27/08/2020 19:21

Just out of interest, what DO you expect trans women to do when they need a pee and the only loos available are single sex?

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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 27/08/2020 19:13

Just over £13.5k. It keeps creeping up.

I really resent that women have to pay for this. It seems like a tax on womanhood.

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beargrass · 27/08/2020 18:27

Can't quite believe we're having to dig in order that the wording of the law is followed. Law debated by Parliament, by our elected representatives. But there we are, I suppose. It's a sorry state of affairs but this is needed to sort the mess that public policy making has become.

heathspeedwell · 27/08/2020 17:46

Still rising steadily. Ann Sinnott is brilliant for pursuing this and I hope she garners lots of well-deserved media attention.

morningtoncrescent62 · 27/08/2020 17:30

I can't do any gardening today because it's a rainy day. I've distributed a few spades around, and hopefully I'll be able to get some gardening done myself soon.

endofthelinefinally · 27/08/2020 17:10

Over 13K now.

loveyouradvice · 27/08/2020 16:14

Donated with joy - I love supporting powerful women - and boy do we need them!!!!

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 27/08/2020 16:01

Excellent have dug.

littlbrowndog I added a bit to mine from you Wine

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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 27/08/2020 15:40

Does anyone know when Maya's appeal is due to take place? Seems like ages since the tribunal.

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PearPickingPorky · 27/08/2020 15:29

I truly believe this is a "win or lose, we win" cases. Like Maya's, but even more so.

PearPickingPorky · 27/08/2020 15:27

I have tried to share this numerous times on Twitter and every time it either doesn't show the thumbnail embedded, or stays in the "drafts" and won't post.

Hmm. How convenient.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 27/08/2020 15:12

'Attributes of sex', should be just that. Not clothes, hair or make up.

Dead right, Datun.

We had a friendly and helpful transman on MN recently, in the 'Ask me anything' section. I asked what evidence trans people had to provide that they "had been living for at least two years in their acquired gender'" (as the GRA requires). I could only think of changing their name and appearance, eg wearing clothes traditionally worn by the other sex. The transman answered that it was really just those two things.

And that's the law as it stands, without even self-ID.

JamMakingWannaBe · 27/08/2020 14:48

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I didn't get to contribute to AB's fundraiser before it was pulled so happy to pledge to this.

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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 27/08/2020 14:45

It's at £12,247 now. I don't think it's as fast as Allison Bailey's one, but it is an impressive show of the strength of feeling around this. Keep going.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 27/08/2020 14:35

Here's a useful resource for people whose workplace has been stonewalled, with the loss of women-only facilities. Also useful to anyone seeking correct information about the Equality Act 2010:

https://aealliance.co.uk

It's the Authentic Equity Alliance, which offers training and consultancy based on the law. Ann founded it after she left local politics, as i've just discovered from her Crowdjustice page. Looks as if Cambridge's loss is women's gain.